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| Sparrow |  | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 22:05 |
 always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | Sorry, I have heard of that, I just didn’t recognise the acronym.  It does sound like it makes a lot of sense. Next question - who gets it? I’m presuming from the title everybody, but I know what assuming can do... | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 22:09 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | We will all be on UBI or something similar in a few years, after these global have their great reset, which is certainly not a conspiracy theory. You will own nothing but be happy is the motto | ||
| Sparrow | | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 22:10 |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | Another question - if everybody was given 1200 per month, could we choose to opt out of work? | ||
| Rick | | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 22:16 |
 I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10034 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | Sparrow said:Sorry, I have heard of that, I just didn’t recognise the acronym. It does sound like it makes a lot of sense. Next question - who gets it? I’m presuming from the title everybody, but I know what assuming can do... Yup. All adults. And unconditionally, so indeed if you want to stop work and live very frugally you could. | ||
| luki | | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 22:35 |
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 08.01.2021 @ 22:36 PM by luki Rick said: There's so much wrong with this I barely know where to start. It's not fascist to decline to publish lies. Arguably the actual Nazis who answered his call for insurrection are relevant to a discussion of fascism, mind you. As for "silenced"... if only the most powerful man on earth had some other way to address his people, eh? You've completely missed the point. The precident of a corporation muting elected officials they don't like, at the highest level, is firmly set. Who cares if it's Trump today. We are in big trouble when politicians have to follow the corporate line or risk being deleted from the internet. | ||
| Sparrow | | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 22:36 |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | Rick said: Yup. All adults. And unconditionally, so indeed if you want to stop work and live very frugally you could. Sounds almost too good to be true. I do like the idea of it. For most people, 1200 per month + some extra cash-in-hand for a few jobs would be brilliant. How could that be sustainable? | ||
| LessThanLuke | | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 22:38 |
 his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | luki said: You've completely missed the point. The precident of a corporation muting elected officials they don't like, at the highest level, is firmly set. Who cares if it's Trump today. We are in big trouble when politicians have to follow the corporate line or risk being deleted from the internet. Politicians should have to follow the rules like everyone else. If Trump wasn't President he'd have been banned off all his social media a lonngggg time ago. | ||
| little_a | | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 22:42 |
 still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | I had a dream that Kamala Harris sat on my face for a proper good muffin the other night. After about a half hour she stood up without saying a word, pulled on her power suit trousers and went about her business. #zmanights | ||
| DH_Lifter |  | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 22:43 |
Biden got more votes Member 6423, 34 posts SQ 0, BP 177.5, DL 0177.5 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 08.01.2021 @ 22:46 PM by DH_Lifter AdamT said:We will all be on UBI or something similar in a few years, after these global have their great reset, which is certainly not a conspiracy theory. You will own nothing but be happy is the motto Yeah, what could go wrong... https://i.imgur.com/nVswk4b.jpg | ||
| DH_Lifter | | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 22:49 |
Biden got more votes Member 6423, 34 posts SQ 0, BP 177.5, DL 0177.5 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq | luki said: You've completely missed the point. The precident of a corporation muting elected officials they don't like, at the highest level, is firmly set. Who cares if it's Trump today. We are in big trouble when politicians have to follow the corporate line or risk being deleted from the internet. Truth. Everyone's cool with Trump getting the shaft because he's a jerk/hole/fascist/meanie/insert your insult of choice here. But what about when this power gets turned against someone you like? | ||
| Rick | | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 22:53 |
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10034 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | Sparrow said: Sounds almost too good to be true. I do like the idea of it. For most people, 1200 per month + some extra cash-in-hand for a few jobs would be brilliant. How could that be sustainable? I don't insist on the number. But it needs to be livable, or there's no point. I think a lot of people would still want to work, because they like that sense of meaning. And a lot would still want to work for a better standard of living. I wouldn't be quitting my job, even if roughly half my monthly net were suddenly not a direct consequence of it. It would mean fewer people being forced into s**tty jobs to survive. Employers would actually have to pay enough to make such things worthwhile. I regard that as a feature, not a bug. As for affordability - we afford all kinds of other things. If you look back at predictions in the 50s, everybody thought the automation age would lead to everybody working half the hours for the same amount of money. What actually happened is half of us work the same hours for the same money, most of the rest get almost nothing, and a few cream off most of that productivity gain for themselves. That may or may not be how we want to go on, as a society. | ||
| Rick | | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 22:55 |
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10034 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | luki said: You've completely missed the point. And you seem to have completely missed mine. Nobody before Trump made much use of social media. They actually spoke to the people on television and held news conferences and all that good s**t. He's a million miles from silenced, he can say whatever he wants and it will be reported everywhere. Facebook is a business, not a human right. | ||
| billynomates | | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 23:04 |
Member 4923, 1795 posts | I'm little_a said:I had a dream that Kamala Harris sat on my face for a proper good muffin the other night. After about a half hour she stood up without saying a word, pulled on her power suit trousers and went about her business. #zmanights She is pretty hot tho | ||
| Sparrow | | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 23:06 |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.01.2021 @ 08:41 AM by Sparrow Rick said: I don't insist on the number. But it needs to be livable, or there's no point. I think a lot of people would still want to work, because they like that sense of meaning. And a lot would still want to work for a better standard of living. I wouldn't be quitting my job, even if roughly half my monthly net were suddenly not a direct consequence of it. It would mean fewer people being forced into s**tty jobs to survive. Employers would actually have to pay enough to make such things worthwhile. I regard that as a feature, not a bug. As for affordability - we afford all kinds of other things. If you look back at predictions in the 50s, everybody thought the automation age would lead to everybody working half the hours for the same amount of money. What actually happened is half of us work the same hours for the same money, most of the rest get almost nothing, and a few cream off most of that productivity gain for themselves. That may or may not be how we want to go on, as a society. I get your point about the amount - I was just going off what you used as an example. I, like you, would still choose to work if this is how things were. I’m not sure about everybody else. How have the trials gone? It almost sounds too good to be true. Who would actually pay for it? Supporting the poor is something I’m definitely in favour of, as I’m sure most are. LOL Andy - I don’t even know who she is. | ||
| luki | | ... | 08-01-2021 @ 23:28 |
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Rick said: ...Nobody before Trump made much use of social media... Speaking of social media, what's happened to Terry Hollands? His youtube is gone quiet since the Shaw Classic. | ||
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