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billynomatesIcon...08-01-2021 @ 11:00 
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KevC86 said:
They also have some pretty high suicide rates.
I've never been able to figure out how this ties in to their high happiness level. Or how one calculates happiness being it is so subjective and changes rapidly.

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DH_LifterIcon...08-01-2021 @ 13:35 
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Rick said:
Similarly, if all your info comes from conspiracists, MAGA enthusiasts, and Breitbart, it is little wonder you find reality hard to fully grasp.


Cheap shot.

I’m here on the ground in the States.
I’m aligned with no political party.
I’m involved in the local community.
I get intel from many different sources.

As a thinking man, it is impossible for me to turn a blind eye to what happened from November to now.
The MSM and big tech responses and cover for it are so scripted it’s appalling.

I try to have reasonable discussions and make rational statements- yet I’m treated with contempt.
DH_LifterIcon...08-01-2021 @ 13:50 
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Post Edited: 08.01.2021 @ 13:54 PM by DH_Lifter
Jonathan said:
I really wish their were like buttons on the forum Rick. I agree completely with everything you've said and admire your patience.


Maybe you guys can schedule a meet-up.

I strayed into this thread and in short order was called a nut and told I can’t accept
reality, because you both don’t agree with me. So much for civil discourse...do/believe what I tell you to or else.

There are many reasons that socialism isn’t accepted with open arms here.
One of those reasons is that it isn’t just some simple wealth redistribution program- there is a long agenda that goes along with it and affects- education, social programs, religion, the economy, etc.

And you clearly have disdain and treat with contempt a very large segment of the American population.
Why would anyone give people like you more power over their public and personal lives?
JonathanIcon...08-01-2021 @ 14:56 
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DH_Lifter said:

Why would anyone give people like you more power over their public and personal lives?


They shouldn't. I'm not politician material. Far too misanthropic and far too intolerant of idiots. We have plenty of them this side of the pond too (52%, by my reckoning), but the combination of religious zealotry/fundamentalism, institutional racism and unbridled capitalism gives the US a special status amongst 'developed' nations.
RickIcon...08-01-2021 @ 15:13 
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Post Edited: 08.01.2021 @ 15:14 PM by Rick
DH_Lifter said:
Cheap shot.


Genuine question. How is you claiming that the vast majority of the world's media gives me a nonsense worldview not cheap, but me saying the equivalent back to you cheap? Is it as simple as it seems?


I try to have reasonable discussions and make rational statements- yet I’m treated with contempt.


You repeat utterly baseless claims, and your response to being called out on them is to claim that virtually all of the media, all of the courts, and etc are dishonest. You claim that it's impossible that more people in America didn't vote for Trump than his opponent, with no evidence whatsoever, even though they didn't last time (and indeed, the last two times a Democrat lost the popular vote were 2004 and 1992). You parrot Trumpist buzzwords like "Sleepy Joe" and "Patriots". When you try to have a reasonable discussion with rational statements, we'll be here for you.
jtIcon...08-01-2021 @ 15:25 
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It might not help much but "grab them in the pussy" is enough evidence for me.
DH_LifterIcon...08-01-2021 @ 15:52 
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Rick said:
You parrot Trumpist buzzwords like "Sleepy Joe" and "Patriots". When you try to have a reasonable discussion with rational statements, we'll be here for you.


Um...the word Patriot has been in use in America since the late 1700’s. It was actually used quite a bit in a war we had with your Country.

And sleepy joe is an accurate description of a tired, low-energy old man who is slowly, but surely, slipping into the throes of dementia.
I don’t hate Joe Biden, I pity him.

There are many videos of him mistakenly reading from teleprompters, stumbling on his words, completely loosing his train of thought, uttering nonsensical words, etc..
It’s sad to watch.
DH_LifterIcon...08-01-2021 @ 16:07 
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Jonathan said:
They shouldn't. I'm not politician material. Far too misanthropic and far too intolerant of idiots. We have plenty of them this side of the pond too (52%, by my reckoning), but the combination of religious zealotry/fundamentalism, institutional racism and unbridled capitalism gives the US a special status amongst 'developed' nations.


'institutional racism'...You must be kidding me. That is one of those catch phrases that gets thrown around and never challenged.

But I'm game- Please give me one single example of contemporary 'institutional racism' in America today.
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DH_Lifter said:
There are many videos of him mistakenly reading from teleprompters, stumbling on his words, completely loosing his train of thought, uttering nonsensical words, etc..
It’s sad to watch.




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JonathanIcon...08-01-2021 @ 16:15 
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DH_Lifter said:
'institutional racism'...You must be kidding me. That is one of those catch phrases that gets thrown around and never challenged.
But I'm game- Please give me one single example of contemporary 'institutional racism' in America today.



You apparent denial as to the existence of institutional racism in America today might well be the most ridiculous thing ever written on this forum.

Here is one example - the justice system:

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-...

America only saw fit to award African Americans equal rights (on paper) 50-60 years ago, and the institutional racism that cultured and supported segregation is alive and well in many parts of America today.

It's telling that Trump's fanatical base is almost entirely white.
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DH_Lifter said:
Um...the word Patriot has been in use in America since the late 1700’s.


It's the capitalisation. And the use of it to describe terrorists, to be fair.


low-energy


And there we go again.


There are many videos of him mistakenly reading from teleprompters, stumbling on his words, completely loosing his train of thought, uttering nonsensical words, etc..
It’s sad to watch.


Sorry, we seem to have drifted back onto Trump here.
DH_LifterIcon...08-01-2021 @ 16:47 
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Post Edited: 08.01.2021 @ 17:38 PM by DH_Lifter
Rick- Regarding the MSM, here are a few things to consider (Some of the titles are former as people have shuffled around. Also remember that Biden was Obama's VP):

1. ABC Senior National Correspondent Claire Shipman is married to Obama WH Press Secretary Jay Carney.
2. CNN Senior Vice President Virginia Mosely is married to Hillary Clinton's Deputy Sec. of State Tom Nides.
3. CBS President David Rhodes is brother to Obama WH Staffer Ben Rhodes.
4. ABC News President Ben Sherwood is brother to Obama Sec. of Energy Elizabeth Sherwood (she also worked for Biden back when he was a senator).
5. ABC News producer Ian Cameron is married to Obama Natl. Security Advisor Susan Rice.
6. ABC News Reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Obama Press Secretary Katie Hogan.
7. ABC/CBS Anchor Bianna Golodryga is married to Obama CBO Director Peter Orszag.

There is clearly a 'close' relationship between the MSM and the democrat political machine.

Then take into account the well known political leanings of the heads of facebook, twitter and google.

It's not a stretch of the imagination to think that something isn't quite right and maybe what they're pushing should be taken with a (large) grain of salt.
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Jonathan said:
They shouldn't. I'm not politician material. Far too misanthropic and far too intolerant of idiots. We have plenty of them this side of the pond too (52%, by my reckoning), but the combination of religious zealotry/fundamentalism, institutional racism and unbridled capitalism gives the US a special status amongst 'developed' nations.


the only thing standing between a world dominated by the chinese communists is the US population and their constitution.

your way of life would be very much different without them.

you should have some respect for that.
RickIcon...08-01-2021 @ 16:59 
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Plenty of people with ties to republican administrations too, and of course there's Fox. And then there's the courts. And the rest of the world's media.

The first fundraising event Zuckerberg ever hosted was for the chair of the Republican Governer's Association. The lobbying group he founded opposed Obamacare.
DH_LifterIcon...08-01-2021 @ 17:05 
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Post Edited: 08.01.2021 @ 17:15 PM by DH_Lifter
Jonathan said:
You apparent denial as to the existence of institutional racism in America today might well be the most ridiculous thing ever written on this forum.
Here is one example - the justice system:
https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-...
America only saw fit to award African Americans equal rights (on paper) 50-60 years ago, and the institutional racism that cultured and supported segregation is alive and well in many parts of America today.
It's telling that Trump's fanatical base is almost entirely white.


That’s rich! You can thank Biden’s own Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 for that.

Here’s a free American history lesson- the democrat party started and defended the KKK, enacted the Jim Crow laws, enforced segregation and suppressed Black Americans for decades.

Also Supreme Court Judge Clarence Thomas was confirmed in 1991.
The Senate Judiciary Committee- led by Sen. Joe Biden- conducted a ‘high-tech lynching’ of Thomas- his words.
Do yourself a favor and go read Thomas’ closing statement.

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