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SparrowIcon...20-12-2020 @ 01:22 
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Excellent PBs Aaron!

Fantastic lifting by the youngsters also.

You’re obviously doing something very ‘right’!
Funky_monkeyIcon...20-12-2020 @ 04:15 
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AMH_Power said:Haha thanks. I think it's genuinely because he doesn't know any different. The only other people he's seen lift beyond myself, is another lad I coach with an 800kg total and Luke Richardson and crew when I've taken him to the shed.

I'm trying to shield him from casuals as to not let it skew his perspective on what strong is; as if he starts to approach what he deems as strong then it gives from for complacency to breathe.

If he thinks he's weak but knows he has good genetics (he's actually gangly/skinny as s**t, but 5'11) then he's on the road to glory as far as he's concerned.

As rigid and structured as his training is, it's actually quite rounded and not too powerlifting specific (yet) in the nature of nurturing natural physiological changes without too much disruption that heavy loading can cause...

I say this, but got my 14 year old daughter to a 180kg deadlift.

The video of the full comp is going up at some point so will link as soon as it does.

Ps. Happy to share our prep programme for this event.


Ignorance is bliss in this instance, although it would be fking hilarious to see grown men getting owned and mocked by a 12 year old for doing half squats with a much lesser weight.

Would love to see the routine you used to peak for the comp.

Do you think I can blame my weakness on my diet? Inconsistent/lower protein intake, eat what's cooked at home (90 year old mediterranean woman's diet, eat what's at home sorta thing)
PeteHodgsonIcon...20-12-2020 @ 08:00 
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AMH_Power said:


If he thinks he's weak but knows he has good genetics (he's actually gangly/skinny as s**t, but 5'11) then he's on the road to glory as far as he's concerned.

As rigid and structured as his training is, it's actually quite rounded and not too powerlifting specific (yet) in the nature of nurturing natural physiological changes without too much disruption that heavy loading can cause...

I say this, but got my 14 year old daughter to a 180kg deadlift.

The video of the full comp is going up at some point so will link as soon as it does.

Ps. Happy to share our prep programme for this event.


Yeah, only really being aware of lifting gods will keep him striving to improve.

14 year old girl...180kg deadlift?! Again, WOW.
I was/am impressed with my 12 year old daughters first attempt at deadlifting last week when she pulled some comfy reps at 60kg.
As she’s not a powerlifter I wasn’t sure there’s much point in getting her barbell squatting yet as they’re fairly technical imo. So we did goblet squats.
Funny how this thread now involves both ends of age related strength. Lol.
fctilidieIcon...20-12-2020 @ 08:38 
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AMH_Power said:Haha thanks. I think it's genuinely because he doesn't know any different. The only other people he's seen lift beyond myself, is another lad I coach with an 800kg total and Luke Richardson and crew when I've taken him to the shed.

I'm trying to shield him from casuals as to not let it skew his perspective on what strong is; as if he starts to approach what he deems as strong then it gives from for complacency to breathe.

If he thinks he's weak but knows he has good genetics (he's actually gangly/skinny as s**t, but 5'11) then he's on the road to glory as far as he's concerned.

As rigid and structured as his training is, it's actually quite rounded and not too powerlifting specific (yet) in the nature of nurturing natural physiological changes without too much disruption that heavy loading can cause...

I say this, but got my 14 year old daughter to a 180kg deadlift.

The video of the full comp is going up at some point so will link as soon as it does.

Ps. Happy to share our prep programme for this event.



I'd love to see the prep you used. I don't have much interest in lifting myself anymore but still like to see how people program things.
EDCLARKEIcon...20-12-2020 @ 10:12 
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I would definitelt like to see your comp prepe Aaron , thats is extremely impresssive lifting from your daughter and step son
AMH_PowerIcon...20-12-2020 @ 15:52 
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Happy days, when I get home tomorrow I'll remove my numbers and replace with Percentages and then bang it up on Google drive for you all no drama.

I'll also replace any accessory slots with their purpose (so close grip bench would be replaced with "variation to bias to weak bench muscle") etc.
AMH_PowerIcon...20-12-2020 @ 15:53 
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Funky_monkey said:
Ignorance is bliss in this instance, although it would be fking hilarious to see grown men getting owned and mocked by a 12 year old for doing half squats with a much lesser weight.
Would love to see the routine you used to peak for the comp.
Do you think I can blame my weakness on my diet? Inconsistent/lower protein intake, eat what's cooked at home (90 year old mediterranean woman's diet, eat what's at home sorta thing)


It could be but it might just be passion. Sometimes regaining the fire or even atmosphere can help.

I probably only get 200g of protein a day max
IrishMarcIcon...20-12-2020 @ 16:28 
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AMH_Power said:Just following up my claim, todays local competition:

Squat:
280- Literally couldn't gauge difficulty
305- Very easy, life time pb.
320- Rocked on to my heels during the descent, nearly recovered it but not today. I'm absolutely capable of this. Felt like the balance f**ked me more than the weight but it is what it is.

Bench:
205- Felt like s**t
215- Felt like s**t
225- Felt like RPE8, liftime comp pb (and paused lifetime pb).

Deadlift:

280- Comfy
305- Comfy but very slow, more in the tank for sure. Matched lifetime pb.
Skipped 3rd lift; still leaving me +15kg lifetime total pb with plenty in the tank.

Weighed in at 102kg too!

MY 12 year old step son also lifted, he did 175/90/180 all comfy at 80kg.


Awesome lifting man as a fellow deadlift challenged lifter I always find it hard to pull PB or close to PB during a comp so that's class.
SparrowIcon...20-12-2020 @ 18:53 
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As a 42 year-old (today I might add), I find this thread a very interesting read. Passion, desire, atmosphere, purpose and competition against peers is something I've definitely been missing from my own training. I had put it down to weight loss/age, so it's definitely something to consider.

The other important factor (I think) is training age. I have been training consistently for 25 years now, so surely that plays a part compared to somebody with a lower training age.
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Sparrow said:As a 42 year-old (today I might add), I find this thread a very interesting read. Passion, desire, atmosphere, purpose and competition against peers is something I've definitely been missing from my own training. I had put it down to weight loss/age, so it's definitely something to consider.

The other important factor (I think) is training age. I have been training consistently for 25 years now, so surely that plays a part compared to somebody with a lower training age.


Everything you said I could have said, except the 42 today bit. I’d change that to 46 a few weeks ago lol
Happy birthday btw.
93hopkinsonrIcon...20-12-2020 @ 21:08 
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AMH_Power said:Happy days, when I get home tomorrow I'll remove my numbers and replace with Percentages and then bang it up on Google drive for you all no drama.

I'll also replace any accessory slots with their purpose (so close grip bench would be replaced with "variation to bias to weak bench muscle") etc.


The legend strikes again
AMH_PowerIcon...20-12-2020 @ 21:37 
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The whole days squats consolidated:

https://youtu.be/9eCbBIKBDLY

Fin (stepson is the first on the video)

My heaviest squat was 305kg at 19mins bang on.
AMH_PowerIcon...20-12-2020 @ 21:42 
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And the days bench:

225kg is at 19 mins too

https://youtu.be/VOwDBkApgYU
WILLSANIcon...20-12-2020 @ 22:29 
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AMH_Power said:
My heaviest squat was 305kg at 19mins bang on.


that was insane!

most impressive lift I have seen in a good while.

well done.
BigMaccaIcon...20-12-2020 @ 23:00 
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WILLSAN said:
that was insane!
most impressive lift I have seen in a good while.
well done.

Aaron is an amazing lifter and no mistake!

I'm 42 in a few months and I'm currently the strongest I've ever been.

Full disclosure, I'm 98/99kg as opposed to the 94/95kg I've been walking around at for the last couple of years.

I'm still lifting 4 times a week and I'm also running twice a week on top of that. Having a semi decent vo2 max really is a big bonus to how you feel generally.

I've not noticed any changes in my ability to recover, however the one big difference over the last couple of years is my actual desire to train.

More often than not, I almost could not feel less like getting changed and warming up and am basically relying on my OCD/will power to get me under a bar.

In short, my body is still doing just fine, it's my head that takes some convincing...

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