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| WILLSAN |  | ... | 30-11-2020 @ 22:12 |
 Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | Rick said:The projected cost of this is still far, far less than the projected cost of Brexit... 1. no-one knows, far less will be honest about, or even can know the projected cost of 'this'. 2. lol @ brexit coming in from leftfield - this thread now has it all! | ||
| Nimble |  | ... | 01-12-2020 @ 01:09 |
 woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said: the public sector cant prevent poverty without a functioning private sector. in the long term, promises of state support made without the backing of a functioning economy will lead to more poverty not less. This has to be the default position. Any economic application of the precautionary principle so beloved of the pro lockdowners should start from the assumption this is true. The only coherent arguments against this are from MMT types who have basically no empirical evidence to offer (for their grander claims), just appealing-sounding theory. | ||
| luki | | ... | 01-12-2020 @ 09:23 |
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 01.12.2020 @ 09:30 AM by luki WILLSAN said: the public sector cant prevent poverty without a functioning private sector. I agree. The total inability of Thatcher/Regan UK//USA economics to manage in any sort of crisis shows it has stretched your government systems to breaking. Any wobble and the wheels fall off. Every crisis response since 80s is sell off or defund everything and underinvestment. Now the hospitals don’t have basics and you have to borrow to pay. There is no plan to re-invest. The capital reserves you’d expect a G8 country to have have been privatised to debt repayments and contracts to cronies. Depressing. Countries like Germany/ Canada seem to be dealing with this a lot better where people aren’t in debt up to their eyes and necessary services are funded. They have a few belt notches to pull in in a crisis. PRC type system managed this wonderfully too in fairness. 15% private sector the way to go? Why is national road building, trains, hospitals etc not Public Sector. Get rid of the middlemen. | ||
| Billwest | | ... | 01-12-2020 @ 10:55 |
Member 541, 4894 posts SQ 192.5, BP 120, DL 222.5535.0 kgs @ 92.8kgs UnEq | luki said: I agree. The total inability of Thatcher/Regan UK//USA economics to manage in any sort of crisis shows it has stretched your government systems to breaking. Any wobble and the wheels fall off. Every crisis response since 80s is sell off or defund everything and underinvestment. Now the hospitals don’t have basics and you have to borrow to pay. There is no plan to re-invest. The capital reserves you’d expect a G8 country to have have been privatised to debt repayments and contracts to cronies. Depressing. Countries like Germany/ Canada seem to be dealing with this a lot better where people aren’t in debt up to their eyes and necessary services are funded. They have a few belt notches to pull in in a crisis. PRC type system managed this wonderfully too in fairness. 15% private sector the way to go? Why is national road building, trains, hospitals etc not Public Sector. Get rid of the middlemen. I agree that this is a crap situation. The economic model the UK seems to be following is that in order for everything to run at its most efficient, every hospital bed, every seat on every train, must be full at all times, or it is cut. So we have no extra capacity. This country has no extra capacity, the only way to extra capacity is capital investment, paid for through tax rises, something right wing politicians and media have characterised as evil for decades | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 01-12-2020 @ 20:51 |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5fc0c9b16da37ca25ee5022d/960x0.jpg?fit=scale good news! bill gates made bank this year. maybe if we keep f**king over small business with these lockdowns a bit longer bill will make enough money to save us all from wu flu. | ||
| JohnGym | | ... | 02-12-2020 @ 09:57 |
 Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Great news! The vaccine has been approved. Not long now until we return to some type of normality. Happy days. | ||
| billynomates | | ... | 02-12-2020 @ 12:15 |
Member 4923, 1795 posts | JohnGym said:Great news! The vaccine has been approved. Not long now until we return to some type of normality. Happy days. Vaccine approval is an absolute nonsense that will blow over in a matter of weeks and be forgotten about.  | ||
| luki | | ... | 02-12-2020 @ 12:15 |
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | JohnGym said:Great news! The vaccine has been approved. Not long now until we return to some type of normality. Happy days. The Minister Hancok and Piers Morgan taking it like on TV. I'm have a Trump has Covid moment again. https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1334063071178993665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1334063071178993665%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fuk%2F508421-hancock-morgan-pfizer-vaccine-coro... | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 02-12-2020 @ 13:54 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | Post Edited: 02.12.2020 @ 13:54 PM by AdamT Haven't seen anything from Dr Doom and Dr Gloom in a while"I will pass you over to Chris now" "Thanks Patrick, next lie please." | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 02-12-2020 @ 16:21 |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | luki said: The Minister Hancok and Piers Morgan taking it like on TV. I'm have a Trump has Covid moment again. https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1334063071178993665? fixed link: https://www.rt.com/uk/508421-hancock-morgan-pfizer-vaccine-coronavi... ‘Sickening PR stunt’ or clever public outreach? UK Health Secretary Hancock agrees to take Pfizer jab live on TV with Piers Morgan | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 02-12-2020 @ 19:01 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | Lol at anyone thinking some politician will actually take this rushed vaccine They will inject a placebo | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 02-12-2020 @ 19:01 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | Post Edited: 02.12.2020 @ 19:01 PM by AdamT Double | ||
| luki | | ... | 02-12-2020 @ 22:37 |
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said: One day I’m going to figure out how to post videos on here  | ||
| JohnGym | | ... | 02-12-2020 @ 22:46 |
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.12.2020 @ 23:00 PM by JohnGym billynomates said: Vaccine approval is an absolute nonsense that will blow over in a matter of weeks and be forgotten about. Haha fair play. It’s good to see the politicians will take it live on air too. This thing is nearly over now, finally. Great news. | ||
| billynomates | | ... | 03-12-2020 @ 08:29 |
Member 4923, 1795 posts | JohnGym said: Haha fair play. It’s good to see the politicians will take it live on air too. This thing is nearly over now, finally. Great news. Hopefully 2021 will be a return to normality. I see that Britain's exit from the UK has enabled quicker vaccine development and approval than if it was still part of the EU. The EU have criticised the speed at which the UK are moving, hope it doesn't backfire for Boris and chums. | ||
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