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billynomatesIcon...22-10-2020 @ 14:04 
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luki said:Both liberals and greens are polling lower than 2016. I really thought DNC would get burned for running Biden. I can’t believe people voting for a rapist.

Since when is Biden a rapist?!?!
BigMaccaIcon...22-10-2020 @ 14:09 
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Post Edited: 22.10.2020 @ 14:11 PM by BigMacca
billynomates said:
Since when is Biden a rapist?!?!

You must have been living under a rock to miss this?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-alle...

I also find it rather interesting the the 'Me Too' movement has been very quiet since all of these allegations surfaced...
billynomatesIcon...22-10-2020 @ 14:23 
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BigMacca said:
You must have been living under a rock to miss this?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-alle...
I also find it rather interesting the the 'Me Too' movement has been very quiet since all of these allegations surfaced...

Oh I've seen stuff like that but its a masive leap to call him a rapist from that. He seems a touchy feely guy but I dont think he's a sex offender!
BigMaccaIcon...22-10-2020 @ 14:32 
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billynomates said:
Oh I've seen stuff like that but its a masive leap to call him a rapist from that. He seems a touchy feely guy but I dont think he's a sex offender!

At least one of the allegations involved a cheeky, uninvited finger....

The fact is, we've just gone though a period of time where people have been publicly crucified and lost their jobs for events far less serious that the list levied against Biden...

You may also remember the attempt on Trump for saying in a private locker room conversion that when you're richer than God, women let you just grab them by the pussy.

Again, now that the Anti Trump is effectively a 'Me Too' protagonist, I find it no coincidence that is all gone a bit quiet on that front...
billynomatesIcon...22-10-2020 @ 15:01 
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BigMacca said:
At least one of the allegations involved a cheeky, uninvited finger....
The fact is, we've just gone though a period of time where people have been publicly crucified and lost their jobs for events far less serious that the list levied against Biden...
You may also remember the attempt on Trump for saying in a private locker room conversion that when you're richer than God, women let you just grab them by the pussy.
Again, now that the Anti Trump is effectively a 'Me Too' protagonist, I find it no coincidence that is all gone a bit quiet on that front...

Yes, good point. Brett Kavanaugh was also dragged over the coals for stuff he's alleged to have done in high school. Biden should be held to the same standard. Also, how about Bill Clinton?
WILLSANIcon...22-10-2020 @ 15:33 
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I said:
how do politicians do pay for play deals when they have to face a public audit?
by proxy?
who would you trust most with that job?
immediate family member?


https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/hunter-biz-partner-confirms-e-mail-details-joe-bidens-push-to-make-millions-from-china/

Hunter biz partner confirms email, details Joe Biden’s push to make millions from China

October 22, 2020


Now we learn that Biden has secretly been playing footsie with China.

The statement Wednesday night asserting that the former vice president was a willing and eager participant in a family scheme to make millions of dollars by partnering with a shady Chinese Communist firm is a singular event in a presidential race already overflowing with drama and intrigue.

The dynamite assertion, believable because it aligns with earlier information we know to be true, came in a statement by Tony Bobulinski, who describes himself as a former partner of Hunter Biden, Joe Biden and Joe’s brother Jim in the China scheme. Bobulinski unloads his bill of accusations in blunt but precise language and detail.

He confirms that he was one of the recipients of the May 13, 2017, email published by The Post eight days ago. That email, from another partner in the group, laid out cash and equity positions and mysteriously included a 10 percent set-aside for “the big guy.”

Sources have said the “big guy” was Joe Biden. In a matter-of-fact manner, Bobulinski states that the “email is genuine” and that the former vice president and the man leading in the 2020 race is indeed “the big guy.”


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EDCLARKEIcon...23-10-2020 @ 19:03 
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i think a lot of people hate Trump so much they are willing to accept anyone and forgive anything to replace him ,I dont think it really matters who wins there are no good guys at top of American politics
EDCLARKEIcon...23-10-2020 @ 19:06 
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BigMacca said:
You must have been living under a rock to miss this?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-alle...
I also find it rather interesting the the 'Me Too' movement has been very quiet since all of these allegations surfaced...


#believe the women
BigMaccaIcon...23-10-2020 @ 19:28 
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EDCLARKE said:
#believe the women (if convenient)
dannyboy73Icon...23-10-2020 @ 19:32 
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Post Edited: 23.10.2020 @ 19:39 PM by dannyboy73
regardless

I agree with Ed, they are all t**ts. and many of the good people of America are aware of that fact as well.

The only Q of this thread is who will win or to boil it down - who will the people of the USA vote for.

Trump hatered is rife, why wouldnt it be? after all the media has told you to hate him over and over and over. Im not a fan myself but and astonished by entrenched positions. astonished.

I think picking through the result and asking the WHY will be more interesting than the lead up supposition.
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EDCLARKE said:i think a lot of people hate Trump so much they are willing to accept anyone and forgive anything to replace him ,I dont think it really matters who wins there are no good guys at top of American politics


Agreed
Also, the fact that anyone else is thought of as worse than or as bad as Trump is shocking. What sort of choice do Americans have?
BigMaccaIcon...23-10-2020 @ 21:21 
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An interesting thought to beat in mind...

Being absolutely correct or completely wrong about something both feel exactly the same.

Once you understand that concept, it goes a long way to explaining behaviour patterns
WILLSANIcon...24-10-2020 @ 08:53 
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RickIcon...24-10-2020 @ 14:54 
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I was troubled by these reports of sexual allegations about Biden, and puzzled as to why they weren't a big story. Having gone and done the reading, I am significantly less puzzled, but a little bit more weary and sad.

Seven of the women have said that they were absolutely not assaulted, but they were uncomfortable with his judgement and professionalism (or lack of). Icky, and hopefully he'll learn. This sort of thing seems weirdly commonplace amongst politicians - multiple MPs here have had similar and worse allegations made against them, and of course Trump is famous for this and more - and it's highly unpleasant, but clearly not debarring.

The eighth is an altogether different thing, not least because it's so old - over a decade before the eight years Biden already served in the White House - and yet basically new. I gather that it has been investigated by the NYT and found wanting, that Biden has asked for relevant records to be released to prove the falsehood of the details of the allegation, that the victim has repeatedly and recently endorsed Biden as a champion on women's issues, has changed her story about this multiple times, has a track record of lying about various things, mostly on her CV (including how long and in what capacity she worked for Biden), and is currently under investigation for lying about her credentials while serving as an expert witness, and that she is releasing a memoir this month. I am strongly in favour of believing women a priori, and I believe seven of the right women in this situation; I think it's fair to say that there are justifiable doubts about this eighth.

I wish the candidate was somebody I could support wholeheartedly and entirely, at least on a personal level (I am unlikely ever to be able to support the Democrats on policy, they're well to the right of the Cameron Tories). But would I hold my nose and vote for him, against the Republicans in general and Trump in particular? f**k yes.
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would you leave your child alone with joe biden?

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