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Sparrow | ... | 17-10-2020 @ 15:53 | |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | Yeah it was tough. It's left me with the dreaded 'fried CNS' feeling for the day... I think my HR got up so quickly on the 2 mins because I pushed the warm up harder and longer than I normally would. | ||
Bim | ... | 17-10-2020 @ 16:18 | |
6:19.WTF Member 3359, 3677 posts SQ 250, BP 210, DL 295755.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | Think I'll have to adopt that approach when I switch to them, just one more week of UT1 and TR to go! | ||
Sparrow | ... | 17-10-2020 @ 16:34 | |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | Bim said:Think I'll have to adopt that approach when I switch to them, just one more week of UT1 and TR to go! The Rathburn guide recommends a warm up of 12-15 mins for TR work. I went with 12 because I'm a bit lazy, but it seemed to be enough. Good luck with the TR work. | ||
jt | ... | 17-10-2020 @ 19:28 | |
old age traveller Member 332, 7863 posts | Bim said:Couple of good sessions, the TR work looks fun I think there is something wrong with my HR, I could never hit 160+ in the first 2 min. Thats because you are "the iceman" good work JLL | ||
Sparrow | ... | 18-10-2020 @ 19:06 | |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | Sunday 80 mins hungover MTB ride. | ||
Sparrow | ... | 21-10-2020 @ 10:44 | |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | Monday Squat 152.5kg x 3, 3, 3, 3, 9 | ||
Sparrow | ... | 21-10-2020 @ 11:22 | |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | Wednesday C2 Warm up 10 mins 2234m 7 mins 1943m 1:48.0 29 154 3:30 rest 7 mins 1866m 1:52.5 28 157 3:30 rest 7 mins 1839m 1:54.1 27 152 Supposed to be AT work, but it was more like UT1/UT2. I hope it doesn't make me slower training like this. | ||
Bim | ... | 21-10-2020 @ 11:46 | |
6:19.WTF Member 3359, 3677 posts SQ 250, BP 210, DL 295755.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | As hard as they are to do, I would try another max HR. Do a 30 min max effort with your HR gradually increasing constantly and really dig in for the last 2 - 3 min, I'll bet you get +10 to your max HR. I know we are all built differently, but I get anxious before an AT session, they are very close to a max effort for me, after 3x7 3:30 rest AT I would be reasonably wrecked and in no doubt it was harder than UT1 | ||
Sparrow | ... | 21-10-2020 @ 13:04 | |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | I think I might have to do as you say. I'll probably do it next session TBH so I'm not wasting any more time. I'm not really enjoying the HR training. I used to get to a point in a session where I thought, "Now you need to dig in and start putting the work in!" Now I just slow down when it starts getting to that point to keep my HR at the right reading, which just doesn't seem productive. As you say, the AT sessions are supposed to be tough, but this wasn't! | ||
little_a | ... | 21-10-2020 @ 15:17 | |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | This all sounds very complicated | ||
jt | ... | 21-10-2020 @ 16:47 | |
old age traveller Member 332, 7863 posts | little_a said:This all sounds very complicated I think once you have read the rathburn thingy a couple of times it becomes less so. Mr Sparrow, so a couple of days ago it was too hard and now it is too easy are you sure its not just having a good day/bad day? I agree with what Mr Bim had to say, If you need any proof of the HR training and the programme working just look at what MR Bim has achieved in the last few months. (unless he has hustled us). He has stuck to the plan trusted the science, put in the hard sessions and is now reaping the rewards I would not be surprised to see him go 6.15 next year if C2 remains his sole focus Do the 30 mins start around 1.52 pace and gradually crank it up to Fever pitch!!!!!! | ||
Bim | ... | 21-10-2020 @ 21:19 | |
6:19.WTF Member 3359, 3677 posts SQ 250, BP 210, DL 295755.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | Sparrow said:I'm not really enjoying the HR training. I used to get to a point in a session where I thought, "Now you need to dig in and start putting the work in!" Now I just slow down when it starts getting to that point to keep my HR at the right reading, which just doesn't seem productive. As you say, the AT sessions are supposed to be tough, but this wasn't! Yeah, that's how I used to feel about UT1 sessions The thing is, if you are going off a soft Max HR then you will be doing UT1 instead of AT, it's only a drop of 6 beats or so between the two! I messed up my max HR the first time I did it, I was going off 165 instead of 175 for a few weeks before I got a proper max. jt said:I agree with what Mr Bim had to say, If you need any proof of the HR training and the programme working just look at what MR Bim has achieved in the last few months. (unless he has hustled us). He has stuck to the plan trusted the science, put in the hard sessions and is now reaping the rewards I would not be surprised to see him go 6.15 next year if C2 remains his sole focus Do the 30 mins start around 1.52 pace and gradually crank it up to Fever pitch!!!!!! It's all true jt, no hustle, honest ! 6:15!!! | ||
Sparrow | ... | 22-10-2020 @ 17:34 | |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | It is confusing stuff, Andy. I prefer things like, 'Go heavy, or go home'. JT - last week's session WAS tough, but the main difference was I used the pace guide for the TR work. I followed Bim's advice (I think) and just thought I'd use the pace guide because the timing is so short. It seemed to work well and the HR didn't go much above what it was supposed to (aim was 167, actual 170 or below). I think BIM is probably right about my Max HR being low. It was a morning session and they should be tough, not easy - especially for AT work. I know BIM is a great example of how effective it can and should be, however, he rows almost every day, whereas I only row 3 times per week or so, so it seems like I need some tougher sessions. I'll do a max heart rate test again... the joys! | ||
Bim | ... | 22-10-2020 @ 18:48 | |
6:19.WTF Member 3359, 3677 posts SQ 250, BP 210, DL 295755.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | Good luck Sparrow! | ||
Boar | ... | 22-10-2020 @ 18:52 | |
Walk your talk Member 5, 25555 posts Administrator | Post Edited: 22.10.2020 @ 18:53 PM by Boar I'll do a max heart rate test again... the joys! I cannot get my heart rate as high when rowing as i can during a (online) zwift cycle race ...I think my muscles become too tired befor my lungs reach the end of their tether if i wanted to do a max HR test i might think about doing an uhill time trial on the bike or a series of running hill sprints EDIT: but then again , you might actually want to know what your max HR is on the rower , so you can work the percentages out correctly | ||
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