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WILLSANIcon...23-05-2020 @ 14:37 
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luki said: Isn’t this how Blair argues Iraq war II. We went with advice and evidence on wmd so are not to blame if incorrect decisions made in hindsight. However, Blairs regime created and are responsible for the information on which he acted. He and Alister Campbell where the first UK leadership that acted like a Bannon-Trump style US President leadership.


do not see this parallel at all.



mandatory vaccines not off the table.
billynomatesIcon...23-05-2020 @ 15:44 
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Mandatory vaccines my ass, not sure how things work in the UK, but here in Ireland the constitution would prohibit that.
dannyboy73Icon...23-05-2020 @ 16:31 
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indeed.
However, they could get s**tty for example: your children will not be allowed to return to school...you need a vaccine cert to get certain jobs, travel etc etc..
billynomates said:Mandatory vaccines my ass, not sure how things work in the UK, but here in Ireland the constitution would prohibit that.
AdamTIcon...23-05-2020 @ 16:53 
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They can f**k off

Their vaccine won't likely work, so why should we take a shot with a disease that likely has below 1% mortality?

Especially for anyone under 50
WILLSANIcon...25-05-2020 @ 09:07 
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good news! model predicts UK pandemic could be over by sept 30 and no second wave.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8350935/US-coronavirus-pan...

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/05/23/19/28746344-8350935-image-a-40_1590258533249.jpg

mandatory vaccine can get f**ked.
RickIcon...25-05-2020 @ 09:56 
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When one study disagrees with everything else, and it's saying what you wish were true, beware that study.
WILLSANIcon...25-05-2020 @ 11:34 
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Rick said:When one study disagrees with everything else, and it's saying what you wish were true, beware that study.


hope is powerful thing! got to share the good and the bad and hope the good comes out on top.
RickIcon...25-05-2020 @ 11:38 
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I mean, none of the advice and indeed law matters anyway, at least as long as you have kids. Gotta follow your parenting instinct, right? Attorney General says so.
WILLSANIcon...25-05-2020 @ 11:57 
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Rick said:I mean, none of the advice and indeed law matters anyway, at least as long as you have kids.


I know what you are getting at but, as a general point, actually yes. as a parent, if the law or advice goes against what I believe to be the best interests of my kids - f**k the law, f**k the advice.
AdamTIcon...25-05-2020 @ 12:04 
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I am an optimist by nature and I believe things will eventually get better

However, I would be cautious to think a huge second wave will not arrive in the winter

Most scientists believe we will most certainly have this coronavirus with us for some time. It will likely be a seasonal virus, similar to other coronavirus and flu

I just hope like many other virus's, it will mutate into a weaker strain in time

I certainly wouldn't rely on any vaccine

Perhaps some helpful therapeutics will be with us in due course
WILLSANIcon...25-05-2020 @ 12:10 
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hope for the best. prepare for the worst.

even if the virus is best case scenario everyone should be prepping for the economic effects down the road.
AdamTIcon...25-05-2020 @ 13:13 
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WILLSAN said:hope for the best. prepare for the worst.

even if the virus is best case scenario everyone should be prepping for the economic effects down the road.


True man

2020 just seems such a write off in so many ways

It would be nice for a happy ending to the year
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To me that graph already shows that the prediction is way off.
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billynomates said:Mandatory vaccines my ass, not sure how things work in the UK, but here in Ireland the constitution would prohibit that.


I'm curious what provision of the constitution you think would prevent this?

As far as the rest of the UKs goes, we don't have a written constitution and as such legally have no way to defend against mandatory vaccination.
WILLSANIcon...25-05-2020 @ 16:55 
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PeteHodgson said:To me that graph already shows that the prediction is way off.


if you look at the US and spain graphs they seem to fit the model much better. I guess the hope would be that the model is right but the data is just anomalous for us for whatever reason.

maybe this reason!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/tens-...

a model is only as good as the data you input. and we seem to be s**t at inputting data.

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