coronavirus

slimsim said:
I'm not sure suspect quality vaccines get released and they also go through rigorous testing to confirm they work. The whole anti-vax brigade may want you to believe otherwise, and yes, there are risks as there are with anything but I'm not sure there's a massive risk in having a vaccine compared with say choking on a fish bone, tripping and banging your head and dying, being in a fatal car crash etc.

JohnGym said:Everyone vulnerable should be protected by the job retention scheme, everyone else should go back to work and get the economy open.

I f**king hate the Tories and their supporters. Utter c**ts.

JohnGym said:Boris Johnson is a c**t and so are his supporters.

I have nothing more to add.

JohnGym said:Boris Johnson is a c**t and so are his supporters.

I have nothing more to add.

AdamT said:
I can't understand why anyone votes for them
All politicians are pretty much liars, but they are c**ts

slow_lift_joe said:Willsan you make some good points about vitamins and especially the Vitamin D deficiency in the population as a whole.
There is some data showing that a lot of people who died did have vitamin D deficiency but more data is required, so this not completely confirmed but a lot of leading medical professionals are stating the importance of vitamin D with COVID 19.

I have never understood why a good dose for common sense is not dealt out :-

1. If you are obese you need to lose weight and you are at risk.
2. Stop smoking and drinking heavy, get healthy and give up the Domino's
(I have seen too many Domino's van during this crisis)
3. We are not hunter gathers anymore, and we spend too much time indoors hence the vitamin D deficiency get out and walk or move a yoke or ride a bike.
4. Get strong, strong people are more resilient.

I am not saying vitamin D and a barbell is going to fully protect you from COVID 19 but if you are stronger and your nutrients with minerals and vitamins are in solid order you are in a better place.

Also another factor which is being looked into is the subject of a ventilator referrals, again no solid data yet but there is talk a lot of doctors in USA placing patients onto a ventilator too early or when the body could have possibly worked harder to recover without a ventilator, the ventilator could do more damage than good, again more data required, nothing proven yet.

Final point on a vaccine you might be right Adam but a solution must be found otherwise the World economy falls and never recovers, unless Gates is waiting in the wings with Jeff Bezos to deliver the miracle via a Elon Musk car and we all applaud and upload the COVID 19 tracker and let the government take more authoritarian action.
Either way we need economic prosperity and social stability or it all goes down hill.
We still need education, jobs, income, healthcare, a dwelling to live, food and fun...otherwise you will get social unrest.....obedience to a system is fine but unless there is a reward or a life worth living what is the point.

Keep safe and healthy.

WILLSAN said:
...other than this guy..

luki said:
The problem with this arguesment is can you believe any of the stats. Johnson has a reopen narative, has concentrated power in No 10 by getting rid of anyone elses press office and has effectively subjugated the cabinet like he is a king or US President. How long before we find out the Covid App is doing something like this to support his reopen narative?
https://cbs12.com/news/local/woman-who-designed-floridas-covid-19-dashboard-has-been-removed-from-her-position?fbclid=IwAR0B7eJvMI87dfIrciFoMA7q1hBFd513bGet9sKBCcQdMaV8R5KzoLm6oIk

WILLSAN said:
...at the end of the day johnson will get f**ked if he gets it wrong whichever way he pushes it so I dont see a motivation for deception.