coronavirus

macroth said:People whose analytical skills aren't quite as low as yours might be, who knows?

dannyboy73 said:Its the Sweden model. and the way other nations such as the far east have undereacted but still dont have the massive death rates. as i say, never seen the daily global death rate above 7k and i find that a bit suspect.
What has happened is that we have gone with 1 model and stuck with it like a holly grail. I was expecting a wave of death to justify global house arrest...
Dont get me wrong, it good that covid 19 has not been the grim reaper. However, since the only way forward is herd immunity and physical (not social) distancing lets not utterly destroy the economic future.
I still think the likes of hairdressers (personal care) should remain shut and those at risk should stay home not the rest of us. Its all backward.
My annoyance is the high amounts of elderly people out and about while kids are locked up. When we go out the old people queing for 1 sausage look at the youngsters as if to say what if are you lot doing out?. its bloody outrageous and backward. Lets move quickly to a Swedish model already and ask the high risk group to stay at home.
and my granddad is dying today so im in a very bad mood

AdamT said:Vaccine is not guaranteed

billynomates said:
Yes, and what will happen if one doesnt come. Are we expected to stay 2 metres away from our parents/grandparents forever?

billynomates said:One of the world's leading virus hunters (Peter Daszak) has said its not a possibility that the virus came from the Wuhan lab.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/videos/tv/2020/04/26/ex...

AdamT said:
The over 70s will have to make a choice
Live their life and take a chance?
Or just merely exist and be fearful
I don't think we should be hoping for bill gates f**king vaccines
Hopefully some anti viral treatments will help in time and the virus will in time mutate into something weaker

WILLSAN said:

if I was a conspiracy theorist I might think that that piece was written in order to keep anyone questioning official narratives in line by characterizing them in a poor light.

BigMacca said:
I'm not sure why you're picking over 70 as the cut off.
Looking at the latest stats, death rates are up slightly for the 40-45 age bracket and then jump up significantly for each 5 year bracket from there (increasing percentage wise as you get older).
The idea that this just effects coffin dodgers is just incorrect

WILLSAN said:
they alluded to Peter Daszak knowing Shi Zhengli ('bat woman' being investigated by international spies ) in the interview so I wondered how well he knew her.
turns out pretty well. he has collaborated with her on a number of papers over the years:
https://europepmc.org/article/pmc/pmc4810638
https://www.c.cdc.gov/eid/article/12/12/06-0401-t1
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/310/5748/676/tab-figures-data
he is president of the ecohealth alliance:
https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/personnel/dr-peter-daszak
ecohealth alliance has been funding the wuhan biolab through an NIH grant. that grant has just been cut off as the biolab is now being investigated by the NIH:
https://nypost.com/2020/04/28/nih-investigating-wuhan-lab-at-center-of-coronavirus-pandemic/
states he has been working with his 'Chinese collaborators for 15 yrs on SARSr-CoVs'on his twitter:
https://twitter.com/PeterDaszak/status/1212018989263720455
I think he might have a conflict of interest.
but I may just be a conspiracy theorist with a propensity for low level crime.

AdamT said:
I know it's dangerous for all
But statistics show pensioners and anyone with underlying issues are most at risk

Rick said:I'm not an expert in this particular field, or anything closely related, but I am an ex research scientist, and I think it almost certainly WOULD be public knowledge within the field. Research in general, outside of commercial and military settings, is massively international, collaborative, open, and, yes, public. The internet was originally built precisely for this kind of data-intensive collaboration between widely distant labs.

Researchers have been pointing out in published articles that the interactions in parts of China between humans and wild bat populations, which are known to be a significant reservoir of human-novel coronaviruses, were a time bomb for at least fifteen years. Transmission has happened before. That's precisely why these labs existed, to try and get ahead of the next one, but of course they can only examine a minority, and exactly one of the myriad made the jump - almost certainly, by simple probability, not one the lab had ever seen. This was EXPECTED. There's really no need to dream up other explanations, however politically attractive one might find it.

Rick said:I'm not an expert in this particular field, or anything closely related, but I am an ex research scientist, and I think it almost certainly WOULD be public knowledge within the field. Research in general, outside of commercial and military settings, is massively international, collaborative, open, and, yes, public. The internet was originally built precisely for this kind of data-intensive collaboration between widely distant labs.

Researchers have been pointing out in published articles that the interactions in parts of China between humans and wild bat populations, which are known to be a significant reservoir of human-novel coronaviruses, were a time bomb for at least fifteen years. Transmission has happened before. That's precisely why these labs existed, to try and get ahead of the next one, but of course they can only examine a minority, and exactly one of the myriad made the jump - almost certainly, by simple probability, not one the lab had ever seen. This was EXPECTED. There's really no need to dream up other explanations, however politically attractive one might find it.