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Samthepigman | WUS World Records | 10-04-2020 @ 20:28 | |
See You Next Tuesday Member 2254, 3824 posts SQ 240, BP 165, DL 300705.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | What's your opinion on the whole situation? Basically allowing athletes to set word records, in the own facilities, in perfect conditions and not in an official competition (live streaming the attempts). In my opinion it sucks that the virus has canceled so many comps, but allowing people to set records outside of competition is opening a Pandora's box for bogus world records. | ||
AdamT | ... | 10-04-2020 @ 21:19 | |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | I'm fine with it Calibrated weights, a ref and experienced commentators Thor will pull 501 on May 2nd He's looking beastly | ||
LessThanLuke | ... | 10-04-2020 @ 21:46 | |
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Not sure ho-w I feel about it as my gym will be participating hah. | ||
The_Lone_Wolf | ... | 10-04-2020 @ 21:55 | |
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2996 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Brian Shaw posted a good answer to it all in his video on YouTube. https://youtu.be/hzsoYquwbWM | ||
DeanW92 | ... | 10-04-2020 @ 23:21 | |
Member 4496, 1446 posts SQ 240, BP 200, DL 300740.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq | The thing is, eddie did 500 at europes, if it got cancelled could he have done it 6 months later or was it something he only had one shot at? He got very close to the log record but never tried again. With that in mind its easy to see why athletes are taking there chances if they feel that they are in the right shape and might not be able to reach those standards again. The next competition now might be worlds where a torn hamstring or a nerve problem in the shoulder is all it takes to stop any possible future attempt at those records or simply being past there career peak | ||
mark_f1 | ... | 11-04-2020 @ 00:31 | |
not actually strong Member 5779, 811 posts SQ 220, BP 150, DL 285655.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | I understand both sides, but I'm getting bored about hearing about the 500, so hope it is beaten. Yes its an absolutely godly lift, and in this defence he said he would do this prior to lockdown, so it's not like hes decided to do bit whilst there's potential to "cheat". Strongman use to be all about weird events etc. It'd be nice to see some variety, and oddball events again. | ||
93hopkinsonr | ... | 11-04-2020 @ 01:38 | |
Mr.Potato deadlift Member 2675, 4630 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 300800.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 11.04.2020 @ 01:43 AM by 93hopkinsonr I don’t think records that are set in athletes own gyms should count and agree with Shaw that it’s opening a Pandora’s box. Having said that, if I were one of the athletes who was given this opportunity, I’d most definitely be taking it. Also - nice to be talking about this instead of Coronavirus. | ||
danbaseley | ... | 11-04-2020 @ 06:09 | |
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4475 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | Eddie Hall has started a b**ching and moaning campaign on social media about this. Predicated by a racist statement about people from Iceland which he has had to swiftly backpedal from. Book-ended by some concern trolling about the implications of spreading coronavirus to people specifically attending Thor's gym (although he has failed to address Brian Shawn's seemingly live-in bench buddy and hype bro in his latest videos). The world has changed. This could be how it is for the next 12-18 months. I think, deep down, that Hall must secretly love this. He is Thor's Captain Ahab. He spends half his life trolling him. His dullard fans have been complaining that beating the record by 1kg is not enough: because, er, that's not how records work any more, apparently. He will now be able to cry foul from the rafters about the validity of any record - and therfore get what he seems to want above all else: a reason to remain relevant. | ||
Samthepigman | ... | 11-04-2020 @ 06:43 | |
See You Next Tuesday Member 2254, 3824 posts SQ 240, BP 165, DL 300705.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 11.04.2020 @ 06:54 AM by Samthepigman danbaseley said: He will now be able to cry foul from the rafters about the validity of any record - and therfore get what he seems to want above all else: a reason to remain relevant. The thing is, once this goes ahead, EVERYONE will be concerned about foul play. You may be able to trust one person to do it fairly, but not everyone. I've seen people who have cheated / attempted to cheat in competition, wearing a deadlift suit under their clothes in a competition where suits were banned. Also, can anyone confirm if Eddie competed in the rest of the competition after his deadlift record? I can't remember. P.s. I like them both (Thor and Eddie) | ||
KevC86 | ... | 11-04-2020 @ 07:38 | |
Member 5141, 4199 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 350830.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq | I don't like the idea, that said i don't see how it is much different to the "record breakers" days that often seem to pop up, they are gym lifts not performed in a comp, often with a potentially biased referee. It is baffingly hypocritical for Eddie to be complaining about it after so much was done to support his 500kg lift, always feels a stretch to think of the deadlift champs as a comp in their own right. And even more ridiculous when you think back to his silver dollar record done in a book store. I think the one with the most potential for controversy is Luke and the log press. The record has stood years and been failed by some cracking pressers. He seems furthest from the record compared to other athletes making attempts and (as previous records show) the lock out on log press is often debated even in comp conditions, done in his shed and officiated by his brother (presumably) it has the potential to be very controversial. | ||
danbaseley | ... | 11-04-2020 @ 08:17 | |
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4475 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | Samthepigman said: The thing is, once this goes ahead, EVERYONE will be concerned about foul play. You may be able to trust one person to do it fairly, but not everyone. I've seen people who have cheated / attempted to cheat in competition, wearing a deadlift suit under their clothes in a competition where suits were banned. Also, can anyone confirm if Eddie competed in the rest of the competition after his deadlift record? I can't remember. P.s. I like them both (Thor and Eddie) No - I don't think he did. He was bleeding out of his eyes and went into a seizure shortly thereafter, according to him. | ||
Nimble | ... | 11-04-2020 @ 08:32 | |
woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | KevC86 said:I don't like the idea, that said i don't see how it is much different to the "record breakers" days that often seem to pop up, they are gym lifts not performed in a comp, often with a potentially biased referee. It is baffingly hypocritical for Eddie to be complaining about it after so much was done to support his 500kg lift, always feels a stretch to think of the deadlift champs as a comp in their own right. And even more ridiculous when you think back to his silver dollar record done in a book store. I think the one with the most potential for controversy is Luke and the log press. The record has stood years and been failed by some cracking pressers. He seems furthest from the record compared to other athletes making attempts and (as previous records show) the lock out on log press is often debated even in comp conditions, done in his shed and officiated by his brother (presumably) it has the potential to be very controversial. I feel like Luke himself will be very up front about this though. He replied to Eddie’s Instagram expressing this kind of sentiment | ||
93hopkinsonr | ... | 11-04-2020 @ 09:55 | |
Mr.Potato deadlift Member 2675, 4630 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 300800.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | KevC86 said:I don't like the idea, that said i don't see how it is much different to the "record breakers" days that often seem to pop up, they are gym lifts not performed in a comp, often with a potentially biased referee. One of the main differences here would be that more than one athlete can attempt the record if they throw their name into the hat. With the deadlift, perhaps Thor is the only one who is close at the moment, other than Ivan Makarov which initiates less controversy, although Hall has done a good job with that himself. The log record is a strange one. With a few men able to have a good stab at the record including Stoltman, Hicks, Biby and possibly others, it’s seems unfair to allow only one man to attempt to break the record. | ||
LessThanLuke | ... | 11-04-2020 @ 11:05 | |
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Rhianon personally is just looking at hers as some exhibition lifting for some excitement and something to watch for people during the virus. Plus promotion of course. | ||
The_Lone_Wolf | ... | 11-04-2020 @ 11:19 | |
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2996 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | LessThanLuke said:Rhianon personally is just looking at hers as some exhibition lifting for some excitement and something to watch for people during the virus. Plus promotion of course. Very sensible. Something to train towards, a bit of fun and a new challenge too. | ||