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| Wayne_Cowdrey |  | ... | 01-04-2020 @ 10:42 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22043 posts | Don't forget you need your vitamin D. Sunlight through a window doesn't do the job. | ||
| WILLSAN |  | ... | 01-04-2020 @ 10:56 |
 Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | Nimble said:Couple of interesting articles https://hectordrummond.com/2020/04/01/updated-graphs-of-nothing-much/ https://www.baldingsworld.com/2020/03/29/how-fast-is-corona-spreadi... some good reading. thanks. my critique of the first would be that comparing overall death rates is rendered useless by the added variable of the lockdown. the respiratory part is more instructive though. maybe bojo and trump were right after all! back to work after easter? | ||
| matthewvc | | ... | 01-04-2020 @ 13:06 |
 ‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3220 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said: some good reading. thanks. my critique of the first would be that comparing overall death rates is rendered useless by the added variable of the lockdown. the respiratory part is more instructive though. maybe bojo and trump were right after all! back to work after easter? Scientific dissent is growing: economies being trashed livelihoods ruined increasing social unrest in Italy and China The Great Depression helped the rise of fascism no end and resulted in WW2. another economic catastrophe will have huge ramifications. | ||
| dannyboy73 | | ... | 01-04-2020 @ 21:59 |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.04.2020 @ 08:37 AM by dannyboy73 just in sky newsChina believed to have lied by a factor of.... 40! America over 1000 deaths yesterday so 240,000 seems far more realistic. I cant understand why the radio keeps on asking why NHS staff not getting adequate PPE... only 2 weeks ago the gov siad they wanted 'heard immunity' surely this was part of the long plan? Only problem is it has backfired...NHS staff not playing ball - 20-25% throwing a sicky...can you blame them? | ||
| Nimble | | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 08:35 |
 woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said: some good reading. thanks. my critique of the first would be that comparing overall death rates is rendered useless by the added variable of the lockdown. the respiratory part is more instructive though. maybe bojo and trump were right after all! back to work after easter? I know it's just a figure of speech, but I wouldn't call it useless.. Has to be understood in that context for sure, but I still think it illustrates some interesting data. Talking to some people they seem to have the impression that the entire world is already falling apart. Things may get terrible in a week or a couple of months, or a year, but right now the UK especially is pretty normal or even a bit below normal in terms of levels of stress on the health system. People don't usually look at videos of the worst-hit hospitals at the height of bad flu seasons, so they think what they're seeing is unprecedented. It's weird, in private conversations, WhatsApp groups or whatever, at the beginning of this (which for me was mid jan as I'm China based) everyone I spoke to thought I was overreacting; now I seem to be a lone voice saying everybody else is overreacting! Feel like we've gone from one unhealthy extreme to another. I may be out of touch with the general vibe in the UK though, as I'm not physically there | ||
| Nimble | | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 08:37 |
woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | dannyboy73 said:just in shy news China beleived to have lied by a factor of.... 40! Normally Chinese people dismiss this kind of thing as Western anti-Chinese propaganda. This time though, basically everyone I speak to believes Wuhan was 10-50x worse than the government have said. They still believe the rest of the country is OK, though. My part at least feels pretty normal | ||
| dannyboy73 | | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 08:39 |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.04.2020 @ 08:39 AM by dannyboy73 I hope it was indeed contained and you and your family stay safe sir  Nimble said: Normally Chinese people dismiss this kind of thing as Western anti-Chinese propaganda. This time though, basically everyone I speak to believes Wuhan was 10-50x worse than the government have said. They still believe the rest of the country is OK, though. My part at least feels pretty normal | ||
| Nimble | | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 08:45 |
woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | dannyboy73 said:I hope it was indeed contained and you and your family stay safe sir appreciate that! yeah, I think we're pretty safe at the moment | ||
| dannyboy73 | | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 08:49 |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.04.2020 @ 08:50 AM by dannyboy73 Im sure you are on top of it but I will say the same to you as I said 2 weeks ago to my Finnish brother...stock up just in case...if it does hit you do not want to be queing with sick people for food later down the line. Nimble said: appreciate that! yeah, I think we're pretty safe at the moment | ||
| Nimble | | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 08:53 |
woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | dannyboy73 said:Im sure you are on top of it but I will say the same to you as I said 2 weeks ago to my Finnish brother...stock up just in case...if it does hit you do not want to be queing with sick people for food later down the line. thank you, it's a good reminder. I have been stocked up but got a bit complacent of late | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 10:39 |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.04.2020 @ 11:00 AM by WILLSAN Nimble said: I know it's just a figure of speech, but I wouldn't call it useless.. Has to be understood in that context for sure, but I still think it illustrates some interesting data. Talking to some people they seem to have the impression that the entire world is already falling apart. Things may get terrible in a week or a couple of months, or a year, but right now the UK especially is pretty normal or even a bit below normal in terms of levels of stress on the health system. People don't usually look at videos of the worst-hit hospitals at the height of bad flu seasons, so they think what they're seeing is unprecedented. useless in that all the mortality rates will be skewed. for example, the RTA deaths will be a fraction of their usual rates. comparing normality to this is like comparing apples to pears. in fact, an argument could be made that the fact that death rates are stable in a 'safer' environment when everyone is tucked up at home indicates the rate is actually high - im not arguing that, just playing devils advocate. I just think its an unreliable stat to draw any conclusions from. Nimble said: It's weird, in private conversations, WhatsApp groups or whatever, at the beginning of this (which for me was mid jan as I'm China based) everyone I spoke to thought I was overreacting; now I seem to be a lone voice saying everybody else is overreacting! Feel like we've gone from one unhealthy extreme to another. I may be out of touch with the general vibe in the UK though, as I'm not physically there I feel similar! although I have been hypothesising that this thing might just be much more long lived than people are expecting. lets say this thing just doesnt go away - you get ill, seem to recover but its just lying dormant, then you get ill again, lies dormant etc. the vulnerable would get hit hard in the first wave but as each subsequent wave hits younger and fitter people would start going down with it. maybe places like wuhan and iran have just had it way longer than anyone else so they have had to cope with more waves which has overwhelmed the system. everyone is expecting the apocalypse by next tuesday, but maybe its going to be much slower burn than everyone is thinking. governments keep slipping out some possible very long lock down times so maybe they know more but are just prepping the public slowly. | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 12:47 |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | |||
| billynomates | | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 13:08 |
Member 4923, 1795 posts | Sounds like its for real | ||
| billynomates | | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 13:41 |
Member 4923, 1795 posts | dannyboy73 said:Im sure you are on top of it but I will say the same to you as I said 2 weeks ago to my Finnish brother...stock up just in case...if it does hit you do not want to be queing with sick people for food later down the line. Stockpiling is very irresponsible Danny | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 02-04-2020 @ 14:12 |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | billynomates said:Sounds like its for real loal. alledgedly from ny too: | ||
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