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AdamT | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 11:14 | |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | 93hopkinsonr said: Ortiz could maybe have been number 1 earlier in his career but has almost been timed out. Also interested to see how Jarrell Miller does against better opponents. I’ve heard he may be fighting Joshua next Not sold on Miller. But haven't seen that much of him. I still think Aj might fight Whyte again, especially if he beats Povetkin. I don't think the heavyweight's are anything like Lewis, Holyfield etc. But there are some big fights to be made. Joshua is the front runner, but I would love to see a motivated Fury back in the mix. | ||
JohnGym | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 11:22 | |
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | 93hopkinsonr said: please don’t compare Fury to Mayweather lol. I didn't. 93hopkinsonr said: Watch some of Fury’s past fights with people like Pajkic and realise he’s not this unbelievable boxer. He’s been caught a number of times by nobody’s and been in survival mode against them. Didn’t Fury also win the Klitschko fight by like 3 rounds aswell? Not a 12 round domination I've seen them all. He doesn't need to be an unbelievable boxer to outbox Anthony Joshua. Yes, he won it by 3 rounds in Germany. Remember Otke in Germany, particularly against Reid? Winning any round in Germany takes some doing. It was a domination. Just because you don't like Tyson Fury it doesn't take away the fact that the lad can box. You're not the only boxing fan on this forum mate. | ||
JohnGym | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 11:30 | |
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | If Fury was back in the mix would he be in your Top 5 mate? If so, where? | ||
93hopkinsonr | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 11:36 | |
Mr.Potato deadlift Member 2675, 4618 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 300800.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | JohnGym said: I've seen them all. He doesn't need to be an unbelievable boxer to outbox Anthony Joshua. Yes, he won it by 3 rounds in Germany. Remember Otke in Germany, particularly against Reid? Winning any round in Germany takes some doing. It was a domination. Just because you don't like Tyson Fury it doesn't take away the fact that the lad can box. You're not the only boxing fan on this forum mate. I never said I was mate, nor are you. No mate, I don’t remember that fight. Probably because I was 10 years old and didn’t follow boxing. I could drop loads of fights you wouldn’t have seen too, doesn’t make either of us less of a boxing fan. I do like Fury mate as stated above in this thread. He’s the most interesting guy probably in the whole of boxing, not just the heavyweights and for sure he can fight. I’m just giving my opinion on the fights just like you two guys which is fine. You don’t have to start puffing you chest out about it haha. | ||
JohnGym | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 11:39 | |
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | 93hopkinsonr said: I never said I was mate, nor are you. No mate, I don’t remember that fight. Probably because I was 10 years old and didn’t follow boxing. I could drop loads of fights you wouldn’t have seen too, doesn’t make either of us less of a boxing fan. I do like Fury mate as stated above in this thread. He’s the most interesting guy probably in the whole of boxing, not just the heavyweights and for sure he can fight. I’m just giving my opinion on the fights just like you two guys which is fine. You don’t have to start puffing you chest out about it haha. Why so defensive? | ||
93hopkinsonr | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 11:42 | |
Mr.Potato deadlift Member 2675, 4618 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 300800.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | JohnGym said: Why so defensive? Which bit? | ||
93hopkinsonr | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 11:49 | |
Mr.Potato deadlift Member 2675, 4618 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 300800.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | AdamT said: Not sold on Miller. But haven't seen that much of him. I still think Aj might fight Whyte again, especially if he beats Povetkin. I don't think the heavyweight's are anything like Lewis, Holyfield etc. But there are some big fights to be made. Joshua is the front runner, but I would love to see a motivated Fury back in the mix. Me too. I want all the top guys in the mix and to all fight each other, then we will truely find the king of the division. Until then it’s all just speculation. That’s what makes it interesting. We both see the same fight yet we take a different view on it. It would be boring if we all thought the same | ||
Jaybuk | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 11:50 | |
Member 6130, 110 posts | Didn’t Reid get a point off/multiple warning for landing a clean shots in the fight worst reffing I’ve ever seen | ||
AdamT | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 14:21 | |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | JohnGym said:If Fury was back in the mix would he be in your Top 5 mate? If so, where? If he's still on form, first on my list. | ||
AdamT | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 14:25 | |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | 93hopkinsonr said: Me too. I want all the top guys in the mix and to all fight each other, then we will truely find the king of the division. Until then it’s all just speculation. That’s what makes it interesting. We both see the same fight yet we take a different view on it. It would be boring if we all thought the same I agree there. I think Duran Is the best p4p fighter the past 50 years. My Father disagrees because of Hearns flattening him and no mas v Sugar Ray. | ||
Gordy | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 19:20 | |
Member 5418, 383 posts | Post Edited: 10.08.2018 @ 16:43 PM by Gordy . | ||
danbaseley | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 20:11 | |
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4468 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | Duran is clearly not the best fighter of the last 50 years. There is a sizable list of fighters ahead of him. | ||
little_a | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 20:38 | |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | As the thread has gone off topic anyway, anyone with Netflix (or any other means) I can recommend 'Facing Ali'. Focuses more on Ali's challengers through the times Chuvalo, Shavers, Lyle etc. When you realise how good they were you realise how good Ali actually was. Also, Black lightening is worth a look. | ||
AdamT | ... | 02-04-2018 @ 22:37 | |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | danbaseley said:Duran is clearly not the best fighter of the last 50 years. There is a sizable list of fighters ahead of him. Like? Possibly Ali and Sugar Ray? Who else? Duran had the greatest ever reign at lightweight. He also boxed from 1968 to 2001 or 2002. 4 weight world champion. Yes he had a losing record to the rest of the fab four, but he was naturally much smaller. But he did step up and was the first person to defeat sugar Ray. Also he pushed Hagler close at 160. Could you imagine Garcia or lomachenko challenging GGG? I can't. Duran was a beast when he was at lightweight. Too many judge him harshly on the no mas fight. Also I agree with Gordy. If Hearns had a chin and better I.q he would probably be the best ever. He was a specimen at 147-160. Lighting jab, reach and ferocious power. | ||
Gordy | ... | 03-04-2018 @ 10:47 | |
Member 5418, 383 posts | Post Edited: 10.08.2018 @ 16:41 PM by Gordy . | ||