Cheating in sport or just getting an edge ?
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| macroth |  | ... | 30-03-2018 @ 15:11 |
 no longer the Swiss Deadlift record holder Member 3517, 3368 posts SQ 182.5, BP 122.5, DL 255560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | PaulSavage said: I understand its not cheating to have better genetics, but is it fair? Not even close. Two guys want to play in the NBA, If one guy is 5 foot and 50kg, and another guy is 7ft and 125kg, purely by genetics, is that fair? Does the 5 foot 50kg guy have the same chance? Does he f**k and I don't care what PEDs he does or doesn't take, he's still at a huge disadvantage. That's the same for all sports, those with the best genetics will always have the edge, even when it's not as visually obvious as the above example. Who else should have the edge? Isn't the point of any competitive sport to determine who is the best amongst willing participants? There are sometimes a few basic and reasonable categories such as age, gender, and disability, but I've never heard anyone complain that "bad genetics" were unfair. | ||
| Gordy | | ... | 30-03-2018 @ 15:25 |
 Member 5418, 383 posts | Post Edited: 14.08.2018 @ 14:47 PM by Gordy | ||
| RebeccaRoberts |  | ... | 30-03-2018 @ 23:51 |
update game is weak Member 6289, 173 posts SQ 220, BP 120, DL 228568.0 kgs @ 175kgs UnEq | KevC86 said: Much like womens sports! Id love to see you say that to my face. | ||
| LessThanLuke | | ... | 31-03-2018 @ 00:12 |
 his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | ChrisMcCarthy said:Weight Classes may increase popularity but they're only there to give the rest of Humanity something to do. I have accepted this and I'm okay with the fact I'll never compete at opens really hah. | ||
| KevC86 | | ... | 31-03-2018 @ 10:48 |
 Member 5141, 4199 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 350830.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq | RebeccaRoberts said: Id love to see you say that to my face. Not really sure why you'd want that, but I'll try to remember to if i ever bump in to you. | ||
| JohnGym | | ... | 31-03-2018 @ 10:49 |
 Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | RebeccaRoberts said: Id love to see you say that to my face. Lol, WTF... | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 31-03-2018 @ 10:50 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22043 posts | RebeccaRoberts said: Id love to see you say that to my face. That sounds like an Andy Bolton PM. | ||
| RebeccaRoberts | | ... | 01-04-2018 @ 09:51 |
update game is weak Member 6289, 173 posts SQ 220, BP 120, DL 228568.0 kgs @ 175kgs UnEq | Lets just say if he ever said that in my prescence it would not end well for him. Its that kind of attitude thats holding back womens sports. Chauvinist pig. | ||
| umpalumpalifter | | ... | 01-04-2018 @ 10:06 |
Member 5836, 366 posts SQ 220, BP 137.5, DL 235592.5 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | RebeccaRoberts said:Lets just say if he ever said that in my prescence it would not end well for him. Its that kind of attitude thats holding back womens sports. Chauvinist pig. Think I must be a chauvinistic pig too. Luckily despite everyone trying to make prize purses equal the thing which is telling doesn't change -viewing figures. Look at Wimbledon, the two finals don't compare as people aren't as interested. The only way to make things equal would be to only have one open class in all sports with winner taking all. As soon as you opt for divisions, whether it's *weight *age *PEDs *gender You are automatically admitting you aren't the best. Sport in its basic format is always about finding the best - that's why the heavyweights in boxing take the biggest prizes. | ||
| KevC86 | | ... | 01-04-2018 @ 13:54 |
Member 5141, 4199 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 350830.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq | RebeccaRoberts said:Lets just say if he ever said that in my prescence it would not end well for him. Its that kind of attitude thats holding back womens sports. Chauvinist pig. You can think whatever you like sweetheart, im not losing sleep. Especially in a case like this where the answer is so clear. Womens sports do not generate the same interest as mens, because women dont have the genetic advantages that men do. This is why companies pay billions to televise the premier league, and why Usain Bolt is worth slightly more money than god. What holds back womens sport is the fact that men can do it better. Thats like blaming the premier league for holding back division two football. | ||
| Rick | | ... | 01-04-2018 @ 14:29 |
 I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10034 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | umpalumpalifter said: Think I must be a chauvinistic pig too. Luckily despite everyone trying to make prize purses equal the thing which is telling doesn't change -viewing figures. Look at Wimbledon, the two finals don't compare as people aren't as interested. The only way to make things equal would be to only have one open class in all sports with winner taking all. As soon as you opt for divisions, whether it's *weight *age *PEDs *gender You are automatically admitting you aren't the best. Sport in its basic format is always about finding the best - that's why the heavyweights in boxing take the biggest prizes. Except that all elite sport is drug tested. Otherwise, yeah, unarguable. | ||
| Rick | | ... | 01-04-2018 @ 14:34 |
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10034 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | Post Edited: 01.04.2018 @ 14:34 PM by Rick RebeccaRoberts said:Lets just say if he ever said that in my prescence it would not end well for him. Its that kind of attitude thats holding back womens sports. Chauvinist pig. Threats of violence are unacceptable on this forum. This is your warning. Saying that women-only divisions are there to given women a chance because men are, generally and potentially, stronger isn't sexism, it's obvious. Some of the replies to this were personal, sexist, and unacceptable, and have been deleted. Their posters are warned also. | ||
| RebeccaRoberts | | ... | 01-04-2018 @ 14:57 |
update game is weak Member 6289, 173 posts SQ 220, BP 120, DL 228568.0 kgs @ 175kgs UnEq | Rick said: Threats of violence are unacceptable on this forum. This is your warning. Didnt threaten any violence whatsoever. There are many ways for things to end badly for someone and violence is only one of them. | ||
| PaulSavage | | ... | 01-04-2018 @ 15:10 |
Member 2775, 6927 posts | KevC86 said: You can think whatever you like sweetheart, im not losing sleep. Especially in a case like this where the answer is so clear. Womens sports do not generate the same interest as mens, because women dont have the genetic advantages that men do. This is why companies pay billions to televise the premier league, and why Usain Bolt is worth slightly more money than god. What holds back womens sport is the fact that men can do it better. Thats like blaming the premier league for holding back division two football. Completely untrue, women weren't even allowed to play sports not long back, it's not about ability against men. Before Conor McGregor Ronda Rousey was the highest paid ufc competitor ever. That's only slightly after women's mma existed big picture. Wait a while. Women's is the fastest rising division in strongman and millions upon millions of female lifters could care less about your ignorant and sexist views. You are no better than any of them and even with your genetically advanced male body, there's women out there that could beat you at nigh on every sport going. A strange fact considering they are all just doing it for no more than 'something to do' as you put it. | ||
| PaulSavage | | ... | 01-04-2018 @ 15:11 |
Member 2775, 6927 posts | umpalumpalifter said: Think I must be a chauvinistic pig too. Luckily despite everyone trying to make prize purses equal the thing which is telling doesn't change -viewing figures. Look at Wimbledon, the two finals don't compare as people aren't as interested. The only way to make things equal would be to only have one open class in all sports with winner taking all. As soon as you opt for divisions, whether it's *weight *age *PEDs *gender You are automatically admitting you aren't the best. Sport in its basic format is always about finding the best - that's why the heavyweights in boxing take the biggest prizes. Mayweather has all the records and he's 150lb soaking wet. | ||