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foxy | Losing the chub | 01-02-2018 @ 20:21 | |
The shite one Member 2740, 200 posts | Has anyone here ever deliberately lost a significant amount of excess weight/flab (10ishkg or more) to lean down and been satisfied with how much strength they maintained? Did you do anything special (manipulating/cyclcing carbs, fasted morning cardio etc) or just eat less calories? Also lets say over a reasonable timescale (e.g. 2-6 months, rather than a multiyear odyssey). Discuss. | ||
BaconWarrior | ... | 01-02-2018 @ 20:48 | |
**INSERT BACON TAGLINE** Member 3502, 1009 posts SQ 240, BP 157.5, DL 275672.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Dropped from 103 to 91 a few years ago doing Ketogenic intermittent fasting (got the idea from a Pete Rubish video) whilst following 531. Was still a complete newbie at the time so I was happy with my numbers as I did PB at the end but still wasn't anything special. Was a bit of a scorched earth policy to dieting but no regrets! | ||
samue1son | ... | 01-02-2018 @ 22:12 | |
Member 4416, 1369 posts SQ 210, BP 175, DL 240625.0 kgs @ 122kgs UnEq | Calling Terry Hollands. Come in Terry. *show us a photo mate* | ||
Rick | ... | 01-02-2018 @ 22:15 | |
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10034 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | A free years ago I dropped about 18kg, to 129, and didn't lose a huge amount. But I was fat and not very strong anyway. My bench went from 175 to more like 165 iirc. I have since put it all back, because I'm a t**t. I did low carb, PWO cardio, and fairly regular cheat meals (this is when I first started getting into good restaurants, in fact, as a planned morale reward). It was easy and pleasurable. Genuinely. So much so that I didn't worry to much about weight drifting back on as I got lazy and careless. The only reason I haven't repeated it - because god knows I need to - is that my system no longer seems to tolerate low carb very well, digestively. Gonna give it another shot in a couple of months. | ||
danbaseley | ... | 01-02-2018 @ 22:55 | |
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4474 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | Low Carb is your friend. Much of what you initially lose will be retained fluid weight. Take some of your limited carbs just prior to lifting - and some people find taking some of their allowance just prior to bed really helps recovery. I used to cut weight like this all the time. Most people over 95kg who are not already following a low carb diet - can knock 5-10 kg off in 4-8 weeks. | ||
Nimble | ... | 02-02-2018 @ 03:17 | |
woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.02.2018 @ 03:18 AM by Nimble I've dropped 20kg (108-88) over the last year. Did it in two 3-4 month stretches of 10kg each. No apparent strength loss.I think carb-cycling is a bad idea unless you are already well adapted to ketosis. If you just drop out carbs for a few days at a time, your brain will still be craving glucose and you will feel hungry, performance will suffer etc. The advantage of low-carb is not because there is anything magic about carbs. If calories are matched, the weight loss will be the same. The advantage is that, following an ultra low-carb diet, most people seem to naturally eat a lot less when eating "ad libitum" (ie. not tracking calories). So, if you are happy to, and it's practical for you to track calories, IIFYM still works really well. Otherwise, I recommend what I did, namely: 1) 2 weeks of ZERO carb. Only meat, eggs, butter. Eat as much as you want. Any weight-loss during this period will be mostly water. 2) During this time, buy some electrolyte tabs and drink these, as instructed, with plenty of water. This will minimise the "keto fog". 3) After 2 weeks, allow occasional carb consumption. BUT, keep carb meals a minimum of 48 hours apart from one another. This will allow your body to dip back into ketosis, keeping it efficient at doing so. 4) Aim for 1% bodyweight loss per week. 5) If you don't hit your target, fast for 24-48 hours (fasting is not difficult when keto-adapted). | ||
Pikefingers | ... | 02-02-2018 @ 07:48 | |
Squatting isn't doing my back any good. Member 5108, 869 posts SQ 170, BP 125, DL 210505.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | I went from 100KG to 74KG over 6 months. I did lose a lot of my (already limited) strength, but I was somewhat happy with my appearance at the end. Very low fat, high protein and no sugar or processed carbs was what I followed. Extremely strict on the diet front (drank nothing but water), but did no cardio. | ||
hardcheese | ... | 02-02-2018 @ 18:28 | |
level 4 bioCheese Member 5265, 82 posts | Post Edited: 02.02.2018 @ 19:19 PM by hardcheese Didn't worry about loss of strength as I am late 40's now and getting arthritic but last year I dropped from 15 stone 3 to 11 stone 3 in 3 months, currently 11 stone.I did a mix of Warrior diet and fasting, ate 3 meals on Sunday, one meal a day monday-thursday (in the evenings), 48 hour fast till Saturday nights meal. didn't snacking at all and only water or diet drinks. Don't take much exercise now as I mentioned but when I take kids to park I can do a partial one arm pull up which is new for me. | ||
scruffmcbuff | ... | 02-02-2018 @ 19:29 | |
Lovely ass Congrats. Member 5958, 2315 posts SQ 280, BP 170, DL 300750.0 kgs @ 138kgs UnEq | I lost 7 kilos and maintained all strength. I cut out fizzy drinks lol. | ||
Wayne_Cowdrey | ... | 02-02-2018 @ 19:37 | |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22043 posts | I'd recommend appendicitis for slight weight loss | ||
umpalumpalifter | ... | 02-02-2018 @ 20:27 | |
Member 5836, 366 posts SQ 220, BP 137.5, DL 235592.5 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | Think it depends on how much fat you have. I was 94kg and went down to around 81kg which would be classed as beach body lean. Didn't lose any strength on big lifts and relative strength shot up. I went down to 74kg dry weight (on stage bodybuilding lean with shredded glutes) and strength was hit hard. Same diet of counting calories but it was the extent and extreme of the weight loss which had the Impact. | ||
matthewvc | ... | 02-02-2018 @ 20:51 | |
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3220 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq | umpalumpalifter said:Think it depends on how much fat you have. I was 94kg and went down to around 81kg which would be classed as beach body lean. Didn't lose any strength on big lifts and relative strength shot up. I went down to 74kg dry weight (on stage bodybuilding lean with shredded glutes) and strength was hit hard. Same diet of counting calories but it was the extent and extreme of the weight loss which had the Impact. The leaner you get the more the endocrine system shuts down metabolically expensive processes - thyroid, gh and testosterone flatline. Only quite recent research shows how much body fat controls all this. | ||
terryhollands | ... | 03-02-2018 @ 10:48 | |
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | Actually track your intake and macros, hiit is your friend for holding muscle and burning fat. You will always lose some strength unfortunately but it doesn't have to be much | ||
JohnGym | ... | 03-02-2018 @ 11:16 | |
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | It really doesn't have to be as difficult as some of the suggestions here. IIFYM really does work. You CAN eat junk food everyday and get very lean. Simply track your macros. It's f**king easy. | ||
Nimble | ... | 03-02-2018 @ 13:13 | |
woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | IIFYM unfortunately doesn’t work in China. Eating is very social, almost every day, and dishes are placed in the middle of the table which everyone shares. Impossible to accurately estimate how much you’ve eaten and of what. Hence the “complication” in my approach perhaps. Agreed that IIFYM is ideal though. And easier than ever given the apps available. | ||