Drug free and disillusionment

AMH_Power said:
I get this, I do. But it's intentionally cheating; that's the difference. Drugs are what they are, and are a part of some sports. But until there is an absolute zero tolerance view on it in drug free sport, it won't be drug free.
Average joe will risk a ban, but not prison. Fraud is fraud. Or, in its place a lawfully enforceable fine. If I can be made to pay for a parking ticket as part of a contract I never signed, I'm sure these cheating low lifes can be made to pay if they do sign on competition entry.

jedi said:Just to throw something in to this from a slightly different angle: I'm surely not the only one here who is lifetime drug-free but lifts in a tested fed?

Draken said:
Do you want strongman/PL to be drug free?
Do you really wanna se 360 kg deadlifts instead of 460? 170 kg logs instead of 220 kg?
I don't. I want them to lift as much as possible.

Boar said:I was thinking, should I just go 'on' full time and enjoy training harder ,training more frequently ... recovering faster , being more muscular... more confidence

or stay natural and slowly grind out the sessions , be more tired and carry more body fat but still get stronger

I chose the latter

I guess that people who are 'on' full time just want to believe staying on for life is not risky as that's the path they have to go down due to the choices they make in their 20's+30's (nothing aimed at vinny directly)

who needs more risk that is already out there ? and who would take a TRT dose anyways ? I don't know what it is but I'm guessing it would be the same as having a 1mm/250mg jab of sust every 3 weeks ?

a couple of years ago I had a blood test and the doc said my test levels were normal



**please note, I'm not TRT expert and I would think under the guidance of a doctor/clinic it would be fairly safe , but not without risk

AMH_Power said:
As before, my issue is with cheats.
If someone wants to put s**t in their body and unemploy their testicles that's their choice.
Taking them in tested federations is a complete different story.

rian1987 said:
Prison? Are you taking the piss? Imagine what itd cost the tax payer to pass a law like that? All for a minority sport..

AdamT said:
I agree.
Nothing against gear, most of my favourite lifters most likely use. As long as they stick to untested, then that's cool.

AMH_Power said:
You can't make powerlifting out to be tiny to justify your argument in the same breath suggesting it would cost silly amounts to the tax payer. Are YOU taking the piss?
Fraud is fraud. If you don't agree with definition take it up with the courts or Oxford dictionary and ask them if they are taking the piss.
I've read some of you previous posts, not sure if you are a pro troll or just a full on belter.

AMH_Power said:
You can't make powerlifting out to be tiny to justify your argument in the same breath suggesting it would cost silly amounts to the tax payer. Are YOU taking the piss?
Fraud is fraud. If you don't agree with definition take it up with the courts or Oxford dictionary and ask them if they are taking the piss.
I've read some of you previous posts, not sure if you are a pro troll or just a full on belter.

AMH_Power said:
You can't make powerlifting out to be tiny to justify your argument in the same breath suggesting it would cost silly amounts to the tax payer. Are YOU taking the piss?
Fraud is fraud. If you don't agree with definition take it up with the courts or Oxford dictionary and ask them if they are taking the piss.
I've read some of you previous posts, not sure if you are a pro troll or just a full on belter.

rian1987 said:
There are much worse things going on in society.. So every pro athlete that fails a test should be in prison? Come on stop talking bo***cks.. in tiny sports like powerlifting there's hardly any personal gain so it's hardly fraud is it.. and 235 bench natural? Don't make me laugh.. you're about as natural as ed hall

Evis said:
With pro sports its even worse. You are basically stealing money from someone else.
While I realise its controversial, I am with AMH here.

Evis said:
With pro sports its even worse. You are basically stealing money from someone else.
While I realise its controversial, I am with AMH here.

rian1987 said:
There are much worse things going on in society.. So every pro athlete that fails a test should be in prison? Come on stop talking bo***cks.. in tiny sports like powerlifting there's hardly any personal gain so it's hardly fraud is it.. and 235 bench natural? Don't make me laugh.. you're about as natural as ed hall

AMH_Power said:
I've had over 100 drug tests in the last 12 years as part of lifting and career.