GBPF .. lifting in other feds

unit94 said:I reckon powerlifting would be bigger if their was still just one governing body like most sports.

IainKendrick said:

It would probably. I like the idea of two feds though. Tested and none. It does mean there is an avenue for people whom want to take gear and means one less reason to be a sad f**ker and cheat in a tested fed for a plastic trophy in a niche sport

scruffmcbuff said:
I dont think there will be a single lifter who would disagree with the above.

FAT_SAM said:Garbage like this stops powerlifting from growing.

I lift in a untested fed, and probably as many as 70% of the lifters are not on anything at all.

ABPU is a tested fed anyway.

Rick said:A ban ought to be a punishment, or it's no deterrent; the athlete is being banned for cheating, after all. Association with banned athletes isn't allowed, because that's part of their punishment. This is common across pretty much all sports; it's just that this is basically the only one where there are largish alternative organisations that allow cheats to continue competing.

(Note: I am not saying all untested lifters are cheats - and I do not mean that. Using drugs isn't cheating in places where they're not banned, of course.)

Rick said:A ban ought to be a punishment, or it's no deterrent; the athlete is being banned for cheating, after all. Association with banned athletes isn't allowed, because that's part of their punishment. This is common across pretty much all sports; it's just that this is basically the only one where there are largish alternative organisations that allow cheats to continue competing.

(Note: I am not saying all untested lifters are cheats - and I do not mean that. Using drugs isn't cheating in places where they're not banned, of course.)

FAT_SAM said:Cheetahs never prosper - Zazu

kennybaby said:
Just lifetime ban anyone caught taking drugs in a tested fed from all tested feds .. simple ... guilt by tenuous association is idiotic and pretty much unworkable .. you happened to be in the bog at a meet where Mr big was lifting and he's banned... target the chests and remove them it's not rocket science and it sends a message loud and clear.. and have a cross fed agreement on these bans ... not 6 months a slap on the wrist and back getting them caught is hard enough with limited resources once caught ban for life

kennybaby said:As I understand it the BDFPA testing is more riogourous and incurs a lifetime ban ... that Fed doesn't appeal to me because I need at least knee sleeves on squat now or I would consider it but I think that lifting elsewhere incurs an immediate stop on lifting in that fed. the ABPU uses targeted testing for PEDs specifically and also hands out a lifetime ban from tested side. 3 strikes and your out is insufficient punishment in the gbpf when non tested options are out there. They need to stop messing about given there understanding of how powerlifting works and lifetime ban not go into this association nonsense which is idiotic especially in powerlifting where there are non tested federations unlike many other sports .. because it's hard to catch drug cheats even with Olympic games level testing let alone the 100 tests or so that I looked at in the 2016 testing schedule earlier, less the ones done on the same guys the gbpf did last year which resulted in 8 banned by the looks of it and all in comp tests ... which is over 8% in real terms and tbh pretty pi$$ poor imo I'm no expert about these things but that's a pretty high number given folk know when the tests are and know what they're on and how long it should take to clear. Wada IMO is a joke and when you look at sports with big carryover from drugs like oly lifting, cycling sprinting etc they're nowhere near in control of it ...