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Steve | EU vote | 23-05-2016 @ 18:07 | |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | Do the general public have anywhere near enough knowledge to be allowed to vote on such an important matter? Or do the experts have so little idea about what will actually happen that it doesn't really matter? What do you think - should we stay or should we go? | ||
slimsim | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 18:57 | |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | Personally I think we should leave. Nobody, absolutely nobody, knows what is going to happen if we do leave but the 'remain' campaign seem obsessed with using the biggest scaremongering tactics possible. I'd happily be a few quid a year worse off if it means we can take control of this country and decide as a population what we see as being important issues. And that's not me being xenophobic towards people wanting to come to the uk. As I saw on Facebook recently, if a foreigner who has only basic English skills, no contacts and limited uk work experience takes your job then you were undeserving of it in the first place!! | ||
little_a | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 19:41 | |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | The biggest gripe seems to be the money we pay to the EU which, according to the EU reforendum voting guide published by the Electoral Commission is about £350m a week. A hefty figure for sure. I did a few simple sums then (if there are such sums around this subject) taken from both the stay and leave arguments. We have around 30m earners on the books with a national average of £26,500. Forgetting NI, corporation, road, inheritance, customs and excise and VA Tax, and just sticking with income tax the average tax payer stumps up just short of £60 a week tax. Of this we pay (£350m/30m=) less than £12 a week per person to stay in the EU. All of a sudden it's not such a scary figure so for me that's off the table as a decider. Bottom line is the official 'non biased' nationally issued documentation to help me decide seems full of contradictions. I don't think anyone knows what the effects of a move either way will be. One thing that has pissed me off recently are all the FB memes telling me that I'll have to register specifically to vote in this referendum and what a bunch of lying s**thouses the govt are. A quick look online tells me that as long as I'm on the electoral register I'm good to go in a months time. On a personal level I think I'll vote towards the side that leaves me feeling the least cynical rather than the most empowered. I also like doing the Euro lottery. | ||
little_a | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 19:55 | |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | Needless to say I took the same stance as I have with religion and creation, and came to the conclusion that I don't have the knowledge, information or intelligence to come to a 'yes' or 'no' decision. I don't think we should be stopping migrants like this coming to our sandy shores - http://misseuropeworld.org/contestants-2016.html | ||
PeteHodgson | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 20:06 | |
Has little understanding of the sugden Member 677, 11338 posts SQ 165, BP 125, DL 220510.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | Thanks | ||
slimsim | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 20:06 | |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | Next to Miss Estonia, Miss England looks like a right miserable cow!!! Bet the rest of the EU can't wait to get rid of us if this is how we look to them! | ||
JackRevans | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 20:07 | |
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | Steve said:Do the general public have anywhere near enough knowledge to be allowed to vote on such an important matter? Of course not. This is one of the reasons I'm not voting | ||
little_a | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 20:34 | |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | slimsim said:Miss England looks like a right miserable cow!!! I blame the Twilight influence Simon for all these sulky looking young gals nowadays. Trout pout = not sexy | ||
scruffmcbuff | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 20:35 | |
Lovely ass Congrats. Member 5958, 2315 posts SQ 280, BP 170, DL 300750.0 kgs @ 138kgs UnEq | JackRevans said: Of course not. This is one of the reasons I'm not voting everyone should exercise thier right to vote! just go and write some loals on the ballot paper. THATS the freedom we have in this country. | ||
Rick | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 21:34 | |
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10034 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | I could bang on about this for hours, but in the end, no matter how much I dislike the other team (plenty), I'm always going to be rooting for the side with Boris, Galloway, Gove, Farage, and Rupert Murdoch on to get f**king shafted. These people really aren't on your side. In my humble, natch. | ||
The_Lone_Wolf | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 21:39 | |
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2996 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | scruffmcbuff said: everyone should exercise thier right to vote! just go and write some loals on the ballot paper. THATS the freedom we have in this country. I'll simply write on mine, "to be the man, you gotta beat the man, Woooooooooooooo" | ||
scruffmcbuff | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 21:42 | |
Lovely ass Congrats. Member 5958, 2315 posts SQ 280, BP 170, DL 300750.0 kgs @ 138kgs UnEq | The_Lone_Wolf said: I'll simply write on mine, "to be the man, you gotta beat the man, Woooooooooooooo" I genuinely think this is important and what a fine verse to put on your ballot! ill probably put " aint no body wanna lift no heavy ass weights" | ||
Wayne_Cowdrey | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 21:46 | |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22044 posts | I did draw or write something silly on a ballot paper once, but I can't remember what. Don't think it was a phallus. | ||
shortandmighty | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 21:49 | |
Aiming for a 250 squat by the end of 2012 Member 1989, 3168 posts SQ 240, BP 140, DL 270650.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | little_a said:Needless to say I took the same stance as I have with religion and creation, and came to the conclusion that I don't have the knowledge, information or intelligence to come to a 'yes' or 'no' decision. I don't think we should be stopping migrants like this coming to our sandy shores - http://misseuropeworld.org/contestants-2016.html I'd happily allow miss Lithuania in legally or illegally!! On a more serious note I don't think we will ever see any completely impartial information on the pros and cons. I was always in the stay camp but the more scare stories I hear the more I think the government doesn't have any real reasons to stay in and we would be better off out. | ||
little_a | ... | 23-05-2016 @ 21:55 | |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | Wayne_Cowdrey said:I did draw or write something silly on a ballot paper once, but I can't remember what. "Fat c**t"? | ||
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