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jwpIconmichael moore's stupid white guys06-08-2015 @ 20:08 
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He throws out some stats - fair enough, they reflect specific values, but can mislead through presentation.

He makes some claims - may or may not be plausible, adds in a lot of personal flavouring.




How much of this still holds water after a decade? And are there any rebuttals, alternative interpretations of the data etc? Seems a kind of a big deal if someone cheated their way into presidency and lined their pockets with bin ladens' money?
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Post Edited: 08.08.2015 @ 15:45 PM by dannyboy73
Problem is, books like this and No Logo opened up our minds (or those who read them)... a decade latter and I just feel powerlessUnhappy

In short, books like No Logo and stupid white men opened my mind...offered no alternative and the future looks pretty crap unless you've paid off your mortgage or earn over 50k
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I do however think that No Logo was a turning point in how we view the world. Im still glad that I read it even though it made me a little less cheerful as a person.
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BillytheoldIcon...08-08-2015 @ 21:59 
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kirkynick said:I once went to see Michael Moore when he came to Manchester back in 2002/2003.

He has a knack for making popularist pseudo-documentaries that use certain facts and /or manipulated information, that is sometimes in and sometimes out of context, to supoort his agenda.

For someone who is supposedly socialist in thinking, he has made a lot of money through corporate means.


Cool man. Why you duckin me mate? Billytheold@yahoo.com Who knows what is true and what is not true. Did a lawyer ever change the truth on you? Money=Truth
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Haven't read it. Is it a bush expose?
jwpIcon...09-08-2015 @ 16:55 
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WILLSAN said:Haven't read it. Is it a bush expose?


Among other things.

Allegedly prooves how bush (with help from jed, which is why it came of relevence) lied and illegally stole his way into office; but also how the us school system is paid for, and run to the benefit of, corporarions. Also a piece about how bush, cheney and some oil advisor met the taliban about building an oil pipe through afghan, then bush and gore went to war against the taliban, installed their oiladvisor as afghan president then built the pipeline anyway. Also claims bush organised a private jet with presidential authority to fly around the us and collect a bunch of saudis in the post 9/11 no fly lockdown. Also, possibly the most important, how his publishers tried to stop his book being released, until he whinged to some librarians who petitioned to get his book published.

I' of mixed opinion, since i both distrust politicians and business, but equally journalists and activists. It's almost like everyone lies to back their own cause eh! Worth a couple of quid for cd book though, listen while driving or whatever. Flight of the chonchords is better though.
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