arnolds 2015
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| Mikeneto |  | ... | 26-01-2015 @ 12:03 |
End of an era. Member 4646, 1964 posts | Post Edited: 26.01.2015 @ 12:09 PM by Mikeneto oggy22 said:The events are the events - Shaw needs to get over it - there will always be some that are unhappy with the events. They would all love them to be tailored to their strongest events. Z has proven over a 15 year period he is the greatest ever, he doesn't need events to be tailored to him as he proved at wsm!! Z is also the greatest static strongman ever so just because Shaw would beat him on a heavier stone, it doesn't mean it should be included!! Shaw is just your typical moaning Yank I accept the events are what they are. It is just the Arnold's was pretty consistent with events for years...hummer deadlift, log/axle, dumbbell with thick handle and stones. 2009 Z doesn't compete and frame without straps 2010 Z competes....frame with straps and super heavy axle( I am not bothered about the axle, still same event just heavier)...still loses 2011...events are good and Z loses...people blame the stones 2012 ...get rid of stones for an 'axle clean' which snaps the biceps of WSM and deadlift record holder, everyone thinks it is a crap event...Z still doesn't win because loses points on dumbbell and frame. 2013...doesn't compete....but they go back to having a stone 2014...Z's big return...dumbbell now a thin handle, get rid of the 'stones' for yoke....he wins but nearly loses...only won in the last few seconds, loses lots of points in the frame. His deadlift and log was amazing though. 2015...They now add in straps on the frame to ensure he doesn't lose big points. Yoke still an event despite everyone thinking it is s**t. Every single change of the Arnold format has been positive for him...when there isn't positive changes he doesn't turn up. | ||
| oggy22 | | ... | 26-01-2015 @ 12:14 |
Please insult me further!! Member 5626, 92 posts SQ 165, BP 110, DL 210485.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Mikeneto said: I accept the events are what they are. It is just the Arnold's was pretty consistent with events for years...hummer deadlift, log/axle, dumbbell with thick handle and stones. 2009 Z doesn't compete and frame without straps 2010 Z competes....frame with straps and super heavy axle( I am not bothered about the axle, still same event just heavier)...still loses 2011...events are good and Z loses...people blame the stones 2012 ...get rid of stones for an 'axle clean' which snaps the biceps of WSM and deadlift record holder...Z still doesn't win because loses points on dumbbell and frame. 2013...doesn't compete....but they go back to having a stone 2014...Z's big return...dumbbell now a thin handle, get rid of the 'stones' for yoke....he wins but nearly loses...only won in the last few seconds, loses lots of points in the frame. His deadlift and log was amazing though. 2015...They now add in straps on the frame to ensure he doesn't lose big points. Yoke still an event despite everyone thinking it is s**t. Every single change of the Arnold format has been positive for him...when there isn't positive changes he doesn't turn up. They may or may not suit him better, but I highly doubt the organisers tailor them around what Big Z is better at!! It's up to the athlete to decide if they want to compete and the reasons for competing. If Z doesn't think he can win then he might not bother, whereas others turn up knowing they wont win but are happy with 3rd, 4th etc. If Shaw doesn't like the events, then he could decide to not bother couldn't he! Unless the organisers did every event possible then there will always be moaners saying they favoured this guy or that guy. Terry Hollands was moaning on twitter a while back that wsm changed the events in the final 2 weeks before and that if the original events had stayed, then Shaw (his best mate and training partner) would of won it!! Shoulda, woulda, coulda. Every meeting is event dependant - do different events and yes, another man could win! It's the way it's always been!! Think of poor OD Wilson losing to Jon Pal because he wasn't as quick on his feet with a load of bricks on his back!! Was he stronger then jan Pal? Yes! Did he win WSM, NO!! | ||
| PeteHodgson | | ... | 26-01-2015 @ 12:24 |
 Has little understanding of the sugden Member 677, 11338 posts SQ 165, BP 125, DL 220510.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | When is it? | ||
| MarkClegg | | ... | 26-01-2015 @ 14:54 |
 knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | PeteHodgson said:When is it? Pete ! The answer to every question is = Big Z | ||
| LaTuta | | ... | 26-01-2015 @ 16:10 |
I am from Germany so i know what i talk about. Member 5171, 1049 posts SQ 217.5, BP 160, DL 233.5611.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | Z won it 7 times.That speaks for itself. | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 26-01-2015 @ 18:10 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | Z will win Arnolds but I don't think he will win WSM this year. Think Brian and Thor will finish above him. Who knows how good Ed will be. He is getting stronger all the time so he will maybe place very high. | ||
| JamieG | | ... | 26-01-2015 @ 19:05 |
 Tom's CNS is better than steroids Member 2886, 2973 posts SQ 190, BP 122.5, DL 210522.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | I just heard they're scrapping the contest for health and safety reasons and just giving the placings out in reverse alphabetical order. | ||
| JC | | ... | 26-01-2015 @ 20:06 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | AdamT said:Z will win Arnolds but I don't think he will win WSM this year. Think Brian and Thor will finish above him. Who knows how good Ed will be. He is getting stronger all the time so he will maybe place very high. Cant see a set of events were Shaw beats Thor these days TBH. Of all Shaw's best events, Thor is better in WSM format | ||
| hixxy1985 | | ... | 26-01-2015 @ 20:17 |
 www.grahamhicks.co.uk Member 994, 9594 posts SQ 330, BP 250, DL 405985.0 kgs @ 135kgs UnEq | Max log in finals apparently | ||
| PeteHodgson | | ... | 26-01-2015 @ 20:40 |
Has little understanding of the sugden Member 677, 11338 posts SQ 165, BP 125, DL 220510.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | MarkClegg said: Pete ! The answer to every question is = Big Z Lol. I realise this. Oh well, might find out when it was by the time Z has got his trophy home.  | ||
| MJG | | ... | 26-01-2015 @ 20:43 |
 Member 5560, 769 posts | JC said: Cant see a set of events were Shaw beats Thor these days TBH. Of all Shaw's best events, Thor is better in WSM format Deadlift? I would still back Shaw in a yoke as well. In a standard final of frame, log, yoke, truck Pull, deadlift and stones I would back Shaw on log, yoke and deadlift. So it really would depend how many people got between them on each event. | ||
| unit94 | | ... | 26-01-2015 @ 23:05 |
 what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10443 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | hixxy1985 said:Max log in finals apparently Z has to be thinking something mental like 240 if he's retiring this year | ||
| LaTuta | | ... | 26-01-2015 @ 23:22 |
I am from Germany so i know what i talk about. Member 5171, 1049 posts SQ 217.5, BP 160, DL 233.5611.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | unit94 said: Z has to be thinking something mental like 240 if he's retiring this year i think he even dreams about bigger.but i also think he wont retire this year. He said he will only retire if he trains and lifts less weight than the year before. And according to him he every year just gets stronger. Man i would love to see a 250kg+ seated press on video from him. | ||
| MarkClegg | | ... | 27-01-2015 @ 10:20 |
knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 27.01.2015 @ 10:22 AM by MarkClegg LaTuta said: Z won it 7 times.That speaks for itself. i think he even dreams about bigger. And what do you dream about ? sucking on his balls ? | ||
| LaTuta | | ... | 27-01-2015 @ 10:45 |
I am from Germany so i know what i talk about. Member 5171, 1049 posts SQ 217.5, BP 160, DL 233.5611.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 27.01.2015 @ 10:48 AM by LaTuta MarkClegg said: i think he even dreams about bigger. And what do you dream about ? sucking on his balls ? No your sisters c**t  But to come back to topic: he said after his 227kg that he dreams about much bigger weight.I was just quoting him | ||