How strong are powerlifters really?

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newhybrid		...	03-01-2015 @ 11:41
Member 3714, 637 posts SQ 265, BP 177.5, DL 265 707.5 kgs @ 97kgs Eq	was going to say, there must be a reason behind all these high squats etc? is it more sport specific to just do partials for say cyclists? i'm sure their coaches aren't just slack and letting them away with it. must be planned.

Cuddles		...	03-01-2015 @ 11:56
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280 620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator	newhybrid said:was going to say, there must be a reason behind all these high squats etc? is it more sport specific to just do partials for say cyclists? i'm sure their coaches aren't just slack and letting them away with it. must be planned. But I thought if it wasn't powerlifter approved then it must be wrong? No lift.

JohnGym		...	03-01-2015 @ 12:18
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5 625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	newhybrid said:was going to say, there must be a reason behind all these high squats etc? is it more sport specific to just do partials for say cyclists? i'm sure their coaches aren't just slack and letting them away with it. must be planned. A good mate of mine is an Olympic sprinter. He never did full squats because that movement doesn't replicate the level of knee flexion or extension required for his sport. His trained 'specifically' at all times in every area. He only ever did quarter squats or box squats.

unit94		...	03-01-2015 @ 12:36
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10443 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400 940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq	JohnGym said: A good mate of mine is an Olympic sprinter. He never did full squats because that movement doesn't replicate the level of knee flexion or extension required for his sport. His trained 'specifically' at all times in every area. He only ever did quarter squats or box squats. It obviously worked for him but people do get carried away with sport specific training, if it's using wieghts then it's probably not specific to your sport

JohnGym		...	03-01-2015 @ 12:42
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5 625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	unit94 said: if it's using wieghts then it's probably not specific to your sport Fair one.

IainT		...	03-01-2015 @ 14:50
normal people, like me. Member 2325, 550 posts	I always enjoy the comments under Primoz Kozmus' clean and snatch vids Snatch - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qIRu4U4G-s Clean - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0rn_pSRv_0

HUGE_GUY		...	03-01-2015 @ 15:14
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	unit94 said: It obviously worked for him but people do get carried away with sport specific training, if it's using wieghts then it's probably not specific to your sport Ive said this for years. Weights are not specific. Quarter squats are quad dominant, quad dominant sprinters are only good for the first 20-30m. But so many get away with it. I think talent rules a lot of these sports, not the programs.


unit94		...	03-01-2015 @ 17:22
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10443 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400 940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq	HUGE_GUY said: Ive said this for years. Weights are not specific. Quarter squats are quad dominant, quad dominant sprinters are only good for the first 20-30m. But so many get away with it. I think talent rules a lot of these sports, not the programs. I agree with all this, im no sprinting expert but surely it is hip dominant so hamstrings and glutes will get worked more with deep squats

Cuddles		...	03-01-2015 @ 19:27
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280 620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator	HUGE_GUY said: Ive said this for years. Weights are not specific. Quarter squats are quad dominant, quad dominant sprinters are only good for the first 20-30m. But so many get away with it. I think talent rules a lot of these sports, not the programs. What if said sprinter is doing other weight work for his hammies, glutes and hips, overloading them in similar motor patterns to how they use those muscles sprinting? I actually agree with your point, but I see much high brow bulls**t from lifters that athletes 'are doing it wrong' or 'would be better if...' - It has about as much credibility as a non-strength athlete telling a lifter how best to lift.

IainT		...	03-01-2015 @ 20:09
normal people, like me. Member 2325, 550 posts	I wonder how many of those sprinters are actually looking for the marginal gains in acceleration over top end speed? Perhaps that's already in place... Makes me wonder what actually needs developing with the majority of sprinters to take them to the top level.

Gordy		...	03-01-2015 @ 20:58
Member 5418, 383 posts	Post Edited: 10.08.2018 @ 14:20 PM by Gordy

PhillippeHalter		...	03-01-2015 @ 21:04
Are horror films healthy...? Member 5449, 2203 posts	Gordy said: I was given Usain Bolts autobiography for Christmas, after reading it I would have to agree with you 100%. Was it a good read...?

unit94		...	03-01-2015 @ 21:05
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10443 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400 940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq	I get the impression Usain Bolt is lazy as f**k, which would give credit to the talent thing

Sparrow		...	03-01-2015 @ 21:29
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260 637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq	I have nothing to add to the thread other than a friend of mine was a decent level high jumper for years and only ever did 'half' squats - his demonstration was more of a quarter squat though. He said it was because he only ever bends his legs that much so it was going down the sports specific route already mentioned. He did like to boast about his 'squat' numbers though even though his legs were ridiculously skinny (even compared to mine!)! One other point annoys me about athletics training is that there are two athletics clubs nearby - one of them well-established for years - and neither of them have 'lifting' facilities available for power athletes i.e. no weightlifting platform. How are these people supposed to train for their sport properly? If you want to be a thrower, sprinter etc., you live in Bolton, and train at one of these clubs - are you not supposed to lift (with a coach) to help you in your preparation for your chosen sport?

AndyCoupe		...	03-01-2015 @ 21:47
His levers get the bar up. Member 2919, 8635 posts SQ 195, BP 127.5, DL 225 547.5 kgs @ 77kgs UnEq	Sparrow said:I have nothing to add to the thread other than a friend of mine was a decent level high jumper for years and only ever did 'half' squats - his demonstration was more of a quarter squat though. He said it was because he only ever bends his legs that much so it was going down the sports specific route already mentioned. He did like to boast about his 'squat' numbers though even though his legs were ridiculously skinny (even compared to mine!)! One other point annoys me about athletics training is that there are two athletics clubs nearby - one of them well-established for years - and neither of them have 'lifting' facilities available for power athletes i.e. no weightlifting platform. How are these people supposed to train for their sport properly? If you want to be a thrower, sprinter etc., you live in Bolton, and train at one of these clubs - are you not supposed to lift (with a coach) to help you in your preparation for your chosen sport? Leverhulme s**te? I agree. They re built that place when they should have spent the money on quality equipment. It actually winds me up how nobody realises this.

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