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justaboutpastit | strength and how long it takes? | 15-10-2014 @ 19:27 | |
Member 5268, 136 posts SQ 205, BP 125, DL 240570.0 kgs @ 106kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 15.10.2014 @ 19:28 PM by justaboutpastit After seeing the below thread... [url=] [/url] http://www.sugdenbarbell.co.uk/forum/What-is-considered-Mong-L... reading some of the training logs on here, and the levels of strength quoted by Mr Small in relation to press (u90) "Strong, 100 or over. Average, 80 or over. Crap, 60-70. I wouldn't make a differentiation because somebody may or may not be taking drugs so use the same figures. Can't see why somebody can't press just over bodyweight, in time." I'm curious how long it took other Sugden menbers to reach the levels of strength they have. personally I'm well below crap might even be in the "why do you bother" bracket. | ||
dannyboy73 | ... | 15-10-2014 @ 19:41 | |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 15.10.2014 @ 19:42 PM by dannyboy73 took me 6 years to bench 140..12-18years oldtook me 15 years before i bothered deadlifting, the i did 240 in aboyt 6 weeks...however years of bent over rows, chins etc... lots of factors to concider... | ||
IainKendrick | ... | 15-10-2014 @ 19:46 | |
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | 45kg machine press &rt; 165kg bench in 21 years | ||
Funky_monkey | ... | 15-10-2014 @ 20:12 | |
403 forbidden message Member 160, 5121 posts SQ 190, BP 137.5, DL 225552.5 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | Special supplements make a massive amount of difference. A friend of mine got from 60kg to 120kg raw bench in less than a year, to 135kg 3-4 years after and then 12 weeks to get to 160. The likes of Terry Hollands, Eddie Hall etc are probably the guys who pull 180 for ten reps the first time they tried deadlifting and on to 300kg with a years worth of training under their... ahem... belts. | ||
MrSmall | ... | 15-10-2014 @ 20:30 | |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 15.10.2014 @ 20:33 PM by MrSmall Took me about 3.5 years to go from 100kg deadlift to 230kg. About the same period of time to go from 80kg squat to 170kg. Then I started weightlifting, not focusing on strength lifts, losing weight for competition and to be lighter and long story short did not progress strength wise almost at all for 2 years (certain areas like my posture got stronger, the same lifts were different, but ultimately no change on paper). Once I got back up to 85kg I gained strength at a far, far better rate. I was actually very surprised at this as I didn't think it would make that much of a difference.Also that guy in the other thread doesn't really know anything that isn't circus lifting, and even that is shady at best. | ||
JackRevans | ... | 15-10-2014 @ 20:35 | |
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | I have inside information about something that smalls doesn't like | ||
MrSmall | ... | 15-10-2014 @ 20:36 | |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | JackRevans said:I have inside information about something that smalls doesn't like There are lots of things I don't like but what you talking about Willis? | ||
John | ... | 15-10-2014 @ 21:01 | |
#biggef Member 5263, 3492 posts SQ 260, BP 195, DL 260715.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq | Interestingly I've just started getting into overhead stuff because its strongman stuff. I started shaws shoulder routine, its taken around 6 or seven weeks to go from coin 60 to 95k I know this is crap considering my weight but I seriously don't bother with it hopefully in another 6 or 7 weeks I'm hoping to clear 100k I think if you having trained over head much or at all the strength will come reasonably quick sort of newbie gains especially with a good program but if you've been doing it a while obviously its probably gonna take a while longer.I personally find anything ocpver head hard going. | ||
JackRevans | ... | 15-10-2014 @ 21:03 | |
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | MrSmall said: There are lots of things I don't like but what you talking about Willis? Too scared to say because I don't know how much it will offend you | ||
JamieG | ... | 15-10-2014 @ 21:03 | |
Tom's CNS is better than steroids Member 2886, 2973 posts SQ 190, BP 122.5, DL 210522.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | I only seem to get stronger/ weaker as I get fat/ skinny. For this reason I'm becoming a lean mean weak-benching fighting machine. For awhile anyway. | ||
unit94 | ... | 15-10-2014 @ 21:51 | |
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10443 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | I can remember it taking a long time to strict 100kg. Thats probably not very helpful but I cant remember exactly. Took me 3 year 3 months from starting the gym to push press 140 but i had done a little bit of push pressing at home before that | ||
Motorbiker | ... | 15-10-2014 @ 21:57 | |
Member 4115, 1247 posts SQ 195, BP 140, DL 220555.0 kgs @ 82.5kgs UnEq | I hit the 80kg strict press a few days ago so I'm now average. Training like 3 years. Gone from 60-85kg bodyweight with the usual injuries and breaks along the way. | ||
CJR | ... | 16-10-2014 @ 12:21 | |
Member 4145, 1331 posts SQ 172.5, BP 115, DL 220507.5 kgs @ 100.4kgs UnEq | When I came out of the womb I couldn't even deadlift 30kg or push press an empty bar over my head. Now in a mere 24 years I have put over 200kg on to my deadlift and 100kg on to my overhead. Basically I work harder than Eddie Hall. | ||
AdamT | ... | 16-10-2014 @ 12:58 | |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | Funky_monkey said:Special supplements make a massive amount of difference. A friend of mine got from 60kg to 120kg raw bench in less than a year, to 135kg 3-4 years after and then 12 weeks to get to 160. I agree. Young guy in my gym was squatting and deadlifting well over 200 in a matter of weeks when he started the movements. He went from a 120kg bench to a 207.5kg comp bench in around a year. He wasn't natural but was never tested during a push/pull comp. Think was 207.5kg bench and 290kg deadlift in the 105kg class. | ||