Best assistance gym exercise
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| shanejer |  | ... | 02-09-2014 @ 13:56 |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | Thanks mate. Hero ! | ||
| VanillaGorilla | | ... | 02-09-2014 @ 13:59 |
 the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts | No sweat dude  | ||
| Wiegieboard | | ... | 02-09-2014 @ 14:06 |
 as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11330 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | VanillaGorilla said: ITW is a shoulder control and stability pattern. Generally, swimming is the best thing to do for swimming. I think the way people interpret 'assistance' is key here. With the 30 or so (national medal winning) swimmers I work with we obviously include many multi joint movements to increase overall strength and power output. Nothing here is ground breaking or rocket science. Generally we avoid trying to add resistance to stroke specific patterns, as the motor response is different, and with strokes being so idiosyncratic it is virtually impossible to regulate, not to mention the previously touched on aspects such as straigh versus angled pulls. The thinking I have is that with improved mobility and 'waterborne posture' this general strength work will manifest itself in the pool. A strong and stable, mobile shoulder will 'assist' swimmers the most. Generally the kick is a lot less technical than the pull and we generally look to simply increase power and muscular endurance from the hip. Particularly towards the end of the season we balance a tightrope of shoulder health versus performance. ITWs and a variety of other scap and GH stability and movement, stability and reilience stuff is key. As a swimming coach myself, I agree a lot with this. | ||
| Nimble | | ... | 02-09-2014 @ 15:43 |
 woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | Dan John/Pavel - easy strength or power to the people. I've done these programmes while having a demanding out of gym life and they work. They get you "strong" (in the normal people sense of the word, perhaps not in the sugden sense) and require basically zero recovery... So more time/energy can be spent in the pool. My 2p | ||
| Steve | | ... | 02-09-2014 @ 21:33 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | VanillaGorilla said:Prone position, in a pike, the I. Sweep arms down into a T using just the GH joint, then using scaps and elbows pull into a W Try not to compensate for poor mobility by arching spine or poor humeral rotation. Is this the same thing? http://youtu.be/LGmKOTWIk5g | ||
| Steve | | ... | 02-09-2014 @ 21:54 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | I said: VanillaGorilla said:Prone position, in a pike, the I. Sweep arms down into a T using just the GH joint, then using scaps and elbows pull into a W Try not to compensate for poor mobility by arching spine or poor humeral rotation. Is this the same thing? http://youtu.be/LGmKOTWIk5g And if it is how would you rate doing the same sort of movements inverted with a TRX type setup for swimming? | ||
| MasterT | | ... | 09-09-2014 @ 09:47 |
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq | Steve said: There's disagreement over this between swimming coaches with many believing a straight pull might be better. This may now be the case, I've not had the experience training any swimmers so my input is more based on what I hear from other coaches. | ||
| Ham | | ... | 10-09-2014 @ 10:43 |
Ham but hey Member 4787, 205 posts | Trying to mimic a sports movement in resistance training is like trying to get better at calligraphy by typing. | ||
| unit94 | | ... | 10-09-2014 @ 11:28 |
 what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10443 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | Ham said:Trying to mimic a sports movement in resistance training is like trying to get better at calligraphy by typing. This lol | ||