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Wayne_CowdreyIcon...15-06-2014 @ 23:24 
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I've never been driven to succeed (at anything). It's far easier to find contentment that way Happy
samevansIcon...15-06-2014 @ 23:24 
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JackRevans said:if luke flaekkers it now and deadlifts 480kg in 3 years then he can retire with the knowledge that he is better than everyone else, albeit broken.

why would he want to do an old man peak at 40?


because if he achieve this aged 28... with his foot pedal to the metal

he could instead likely achieve 440 at 28 and thus maybe 500 at 40

and then not be broken and still be the best and move onto swimming or whatever else he fancies
JackRevansIcon...15-06-2014 @ 23:29 
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samevans said:
because if he achieve this aged 28... with his foot pedal to the metal
he could instead likely achieve 440 at 28 and thus maybe 500 at 40
and then not be broken and still be the best and move onto swimming or whatever else he fancies


you know what they say, "he who is a janner is actually a beegar" - Martin Luther
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...15-06-2014 @ 23:30 
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Sam, I just clicked on your name to find out your age. You're about 10 years younger than I was expecting.
LessThanLukeIcon...15-06-2014 @ 23:31 
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samevans said:Luke do you not thing it might be smarter to consider that you are probably over a decade off peaking... Thus will be strong if you reduce the risk of injury and continue to progress longer even if this progress is a little slower?


I don't train like an idiot mate and have no injury concerns right now I was just saying that playing it safe isn't neccesarily the right way to do things.
LessThanLukeIcon...15-06-2014 @ 23:31 
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Post Edited: 15.06.2014 @ 23:32 PM by LessThanLuke
samevans said:
because if he achieve this aged 28... with his foot pedal to the metal
he could instead likely achieve 440 at 28 and thus maybe 500 at 40
and then not be broken and still be the best and move onto swimming or whatever else he fancies


Plus anyone who ever deadlifts 400kg is likely to be f**ked in old age no matter how they got there. Nature of the sport at high levels.
samevansIcon...15-06-2014 @ 23:32 
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Wayne_Cowdrey said:Sam, I just clicked on your name to find out your age. You're about 10 years younger than I was expecting.


Thanks mate... I guess!!Happy
LessThanLukeIcon...15-06-2014 @ 23:36 
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In fact as was just pointed out to me "it would probably be healtheir to do it quickly, get in get out instead of grinding away for 25 years"
samevansIcon...15-06-2014 @ 23:37 
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LessThanLuke said:
So? s**t happens.


I wasn't particularly suggesting you did just responding to above comment.

Of course it is going to be hard to make it to the top level without pushing the envelop.

I am suggesting thinking on a longer game plan when looking at the risks involved with training super hard in intensity, volume, frequency would probably yield better results of the course of a career as it were.
samevansIcon...15-06-2014 @ 23:39 
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LessThanLuke said:In fact as was just pointed out to me "it would probably be healtheir to do it quickly, get in get out instead of grinding away for 25 years"


Maybe I could not comment on this! I have no knowledge.
LessThanLukeIcon...15-06-2014 @ 23:39 
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samevans said:
I wasn't particularly suggesting you did just responding to above comment.
Of course it is going to be hard to make it to the top level without pushing the envelop.
I am suggesting thinking on a longer game plan when looking at the risks involved with training super hard in intensity, volume, frequency would probably yield better results of the course of a career as it were.


I don't disagree on the whole BUT at the same time you aren't going make it to WSM if you are worrying about what life is going to be like in 20 years time was my point(maybe poorly made)
unit94Icon...15-06-2014 @ 23:39 
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Tbf Lukes training seems pretty well judged and not too risky in terms of injuries
LessThanLukeIcon...15-06-2014 @ 23:40 
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unit94 said:Tbf Lukes training seems pretty well judged and not too risky in terms of injuries


Yeah I don't actually push the boat that much apart from on Deads, but I know I can recover from them, I know where I want to be in 1 year, 2 years etc.
BillytheoldIcon...16-06-2014 @ 02:21 
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Sam is smart! I am 52! I've had injuries that took years to recover from. I just keep it moving and I am progressing! My goal is to be wiser! The problem is that everyone or a high percentage of lifters have retired! I'm an old man playing a young mans game! The cocky ones keep my temper alive. I love entering open instead of masters during season.
FatpeteIcon...16-06-2014 @ 07:31 
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Wayne_Cowdrey said:
Avoidable s**t doesn't have to happen! It is, of course, up to the individual what they do to their body, but surely you want to be able to move around pain free when you're 50?
Your opinions will alter when you're a bit older, trust me Wink


Very well said Sir. Every word as true as anything can ever be.

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