Will Genia bench press

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billynomates		...	25-02-2014 @ 17:46
Member 4923, 1795 posts	He's like the credible hulk

dr_hazbun		...	25-02-2014 @ 19:40
tabbouleh and fattoush salads were very refreshing Member 267, 8548 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 250 635.0 kgs @ 90kgs Eq	WILLSAN said:My cousin did an s+c internship at a top union club and reckoned a lot of them ( including England internationals) were lazy arses in in the gym. Bench and biceps and out. He also told me that in terms of strength most were above average but not anything special. This is my impression. I've seen several top union and league players do strength sessions and I've never been too impressed. Benching 140-160 with good form is very rare and most do the generic load the bar to 180 and rep out on half squats. There's also some very poor power cleaning that tends to go on with weights that are far too heavy. Will Genia will be the exception rather than the rule.

IainKendrick		...	25-02-2014 @ 20:19
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	It could happen. If it's anything like the claims of NFL players it may boil down to a bounced rep with 2 mates spotting.

Billytheold		...	25-02-2014 @ 21:13
Sugdens crazy old person. Member 4936, 7288 posts SQ 270, BP 155, DL 270 695.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Angles, spotters, gear, bouncing. I think bench press is the most popular lift here since I was I started lifting weights in 1977. Curls is another popular weight bearing exercise.

AdamT		...	25-02-2014 @ 22:18
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts	FAT_SAM said:I believe it. I have trained with a 90kg bodybuilder that managed 140x10, 160x4 and then 180x1 on bench. His form was strict touch and go. He is a pure bodybuilder with no interest in strength at all. I have no doubt a rugby player that focuses on power and speed as part of his training could do the same, if not a little more. very similar numbers to an 85kg bodybuilder in my gym. 140 9 or 10 and 175 pause rep. Definitely believable

billynomates		...	25-02-2014 @ 22:30
Member 4923, 1795 posts	Most bodybuilders are getting "help" though. Genia must be natural given his sport, which makes it even more impressive (if true).

WILLSAN		...	26-02-2014 @ 00:39
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	AdamT said: FAT_SAM said:I believe it. I have trained with a 90kg bodybuilder that managed 140x10, 160x4 and then 180x1 on bench. His form was strict touch and go. He is a pure bodybuilder with no interest in strength at all. I have no doubt a rugby player that focuses on power and speed as part of his training could do the same, if not a little more. very similar numbers to an 85kg bodybuilder in my gym. 140 9 or 10 and 175 pause rep. Definitely believable Trains for size not strength - benches 180 @ 90....


IainT		...	26-02-2014 @ 12:52
normal people, like me. Member 2325, 550 posts	billynomates said:Most bodybuilders are getting "help" though. Genia must be natural given his sport, which makes it even more impressive (if true). As a big rugby fan, I suspect we should be under no illusions about this. It's plausible. There are a certain number of freaks. There were stories about Mat Tait being one of the strongest at Newcastle, and he was about 85-90kg in those days. Similarly, Tom Youngs was reputedly one of the strongest at Leicester before he was moved from centre to hooker and had a neckectomy.

JohnGym		...	26-02-2014 @ 12:55
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5 625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	billynomates said:Most bodybuilders are getting "help" though. Genia must be natural given his sport, which makes it even more impressive (if true). A close friend of mine was a S&C coach for a Super League team. According to him, hardly any of those beasts are natural.

LessThanLuke		...	26-02-2014 @ 22:22
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420 890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	WILLSAN said: Trains for size not strength - benches 180 @ 90.... Lots of people like this about will. Guy I work with Benchs 180 x 2 @ 95, no interest in powerlifting or anything. billynomates said:Most bodybuilders are getting "help" though. Genia must be natural given his sport, which makes it even more impressive (if true). PED use is rife in rugby. Do not believe any different.

Flash		...	26-02-2014 @ 22:28
King of the impossible Member 3130, 2082 posts SQ 310, BP 200, DL 310 820.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq	LessThanLuke said: PED use is rife in rugby. Do not believe any different. watch in HD and look at some of those jaw and brow lines and your theory would seem correct lukey Don't be drawn in that everyone is though, there are still some exceptional natural athletes in the rugby world.

WILLSAN		...	26-02-2014 @ 22:36
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	LessThanLuke said: WILLSAN said: Trains for size not strength - benches 180 @ 90.... Lots of people like this about will. Guy I work with Benchs 180 x 2 @ 95, no interest in powerlifting or anything. I wasn't questioning it. Just thought that it was quite funny that he's training for size and doesn't care about strength but has managed to become strong but not particularly big.

LessThanLuke		...	26-02-2014 @ 22:51
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420 890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 26.02.2014 @ 22:51 PM by LessThanLuke WILLSAN said: I wasn't questioning it. Just thought that it was quite funny that he's training for size and doesn't care about strength but has managed to become strong but not particularly big. How do you know he is not big? :P 90 lean could be massive depending on height.

WILLSAN		...	26-02-2014 @ 23:12
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	Personal opinion of course but I haven't seen anyone at 90, ripped or not, who I would consider to be massive.. I reckon if you put most guys that weight in a thick jumper you wouldn't be able to tell they even trained. Maybe im wrong! In bb terms is 90kg bw not a poor return for a 180 bench?

LessThanLuke		...	26-02-2014 @ 23:19
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420 890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	WILLSAN said:Personal opinion of course but I haven't seen anyone at 90, ripped or not, who I would consider to be massive.. I reckon if you put most guys that weight in a thick jumper you wouldn't be able to tell they even trained. Maybe im wrong! In bb terms is 90kg bw not a poor return for a 180 bench? Personal experiences will differ of course. I think you underestimate how big 90kg lean is at say 5 foot 8.

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