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| FAT_SAM |  | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 14:42 |
 more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 20.08.2013 @ 14:44 PM by FAT_SAM I don't think Jenkins being fit would have made much difference, Ed would have still won viking/squat and been near the bottom in keg toss and yoke.I'd love to see Ed at the Arnolds! | ||
| MrSmall | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 14:43 |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Yeah what is his deadlift like? Sad that his stones weren't up to much, he was close but that group was really competitive. | ||
| martinb | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 14:44 |
 Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | JC said: how would he fare on the masssive stone, 120 'bell and hummer deadlift though? Good point. But perhaps he has more chance of improving those things (static) than he does improving what he needs at wsm (moving) I tend to think yoke and other moving events are a good barometer of inate athletic ability ,obviously you can train them and get better, but if you don't start off good, you will never be great | ||
| JC | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 14:44 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | MrSmall said:Yeah what is his deadlift like? Sad that his stones weren't up to much, he was close but that group was really competitive. 400 but with a very hitched lockout hummer setup suits those lifters with an ubber strong top part of the lift | ||
| martinb | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 14:45 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 20.08.2013 @ 14:47 PM by martinb FAT_SAM said:I don't think Jenkins being fit would have made much difference, Ed would have still won viking/squat and been near the bottom in keg toss and yoke. I'd love to see Ed at the Arnolds! Jenkins is better oh and squatting than ed And even if you think he's not, put him 2nd to ed on those events, and its not close | ||
| FAT_SAM | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 14:47 |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 20.08.2013 @ 14:48 PM by FAT_SAM In my opinion hitching is caused by a weakness off the floor especially lack of speed. A lot of people who hitch full deadlifts pull clean from 18''. | ||
| MrSmall | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 14:52 |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | It's not so much a weakness as different positions, a lot of people deadlift in such a way that it moves well until the knee but then they are in a very poor position to lock out, whereas people who hold different positions and have a slower first half of the lift can fly to lockout. More often than not, though, people who hitch have weak partial lifts too, due to positions AND because they never get those areas stimulated well, so yeah he probably isn't great. | ||
| PaulSavage | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 15:30 |
Member 2775, 6927 posts | Yoke can be improved just like anything else. Look at Phil Pfister for example, at first he was getting dead last in the yoke every time, then compare that to the late 2000's where he was totally smashing the car walk. Plus Ed has inproved his yoke already. I suspect right now he feels like he still needs more static strength and he's probably right is he wants to win worlds. As for jenkins, no it wouldnt be anywhere near close if he was on form. Used to follow an old log of his on marunde an dudes kong strong. | ||
| Mikeneto | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 15:35 |
End of an era. Member 4646, 1964 posts | Another way to look at how close Ed was from getting through is. If Jenkins was just over half a second slower on the stones he would of got 2nd place and then overall points would be the same as Ed's and Ed would of gone through on event wins. | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 15:36 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | PaulSavage said:Yoke can be improved just like anything else. Look at Phil Pfister for example, at first he was getting dead last in the yoke every time, then compare that to the late 2000's where he was totally smashing the car walk. Plus Ed has inproved his yoke already. I suspect right now he feels like he still needs more static strength and he's probably right is he wants to win worlds. As for jenkins, no it wouldnt be anywhere near close if he was on form. Used to follow an old log of his on marunde an dudes kong strong. I agree, if jenkins is in top form he could win the whole thing. Think deadlift is a minor weakness of his, though he has improved it. | ||
| rick89 | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 15:42 |
 I have a fear of getting strong Member 911, 764 posts SQ 265, BP 170, DL 315750.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | PaulSavage said:Yoke can be improved just like anything else. Look at Phil Pfister for example, at first he was getting dead last in the yoke every time, then compare that to the late 2000's where he was totally smashing the car walk. Plus Ed has inproved his yoke already. I suspect right now he feels like he still needs more static strength and he's probably right is he wants to win worlds. As for jenkins, no it wouldnt be anywhere near close if he was on form. Used to follow an old log of his on marunde an dudes kong strong. agreed fully really dont understand this notion that your rather good or not and never will be, granted some athletes will be naturally better at certain events this goes with out saying but anything can be imrpoved drastically with enough effort I remember ed being beat by big rich on axle at uk's at soemthing like 160, just coudlnt press it, 12 months later the guys is stricting 180 easy he just doesn seem to me to of trained the event enough even still | ||
| JC | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 15:45 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | rick89 said: agreed fully really dont understand this notion that your rather good or not and never will be, granted some athletes will be naturally better at certain events this goes with out saying but anything can be imrpoved drastically with enough effort I remember ed being beat by big rich on axle at uk's at soemthing like 160, just coudlnt press it, 12 months later the guys is stricting 180 easy he just doesn seem to me to of trained the event enough even still Ed isn't some fresh faced newbie to strongman he was competing in 2007-08.....and maybe even before then but I do agree that with weekly training, yoke 7 farmers are perhaps the 2 easiest events too improve on (IMO) | ||
| rick89 | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 15:49 |
I have a fear of getting strong Member 911, 764 posts SQ 265, BP 170, DL 315750.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | JC said: Ed isn't some fresh faced newbie to strongman he was competing in 2007-08.....and maybe even before then but I do agree that with weekly training, yoke 7 farmers are perhaps the 2 easiest events too improve on (IMO) Yes buddy you right Ed is far from new, although still young I just dont think he has done enough prep on events , thingk the guy loves his gym work too much | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 15:49 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | Was Mariusz ever the most static strong guy? Though he was strong as hell, it was his skill at the events and his speed and determination that saw him win so many titles at WSM | ||
| rick89 | | ... | 20-08-2013 @ 15:52 |
I have a fear of getting strong Member 911, 764 posts SQ 265, BP 170, DL 315750.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | AdamT said:Was Mariusz ever the most static strong guy? Though he was strong as hell, it was his skill at the events and his speed and determination that saw him win so many titles at WSM true but are the weights and events that much harder and heavier nowdays possibly I mean all the top guys are static monsters could mariusz keep points thesedays on deads,squats, pressing,stones ?? doubt it myself | ||
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