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Mark		...	27-07-2013 @ 19:55
Member. Member 2171, 1612 posts	WILLSAN said:Seeding makes sense in a competition like this. Who wants to see one of the favourites go out in the group stages from being put in a hard group when a no hoper goes through in an easy one? Federer isn't going to play djokovic in the first round of a major, for example. But yet in many competitions teams/people are drawn from a hat. I see both arguments for each type as valid tbh

WILLSAN		...	27-07-2013 @ 20:34
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	I don't think the fact that the competition is seeded is the problem. It's the fact that the process of seeding is not clear and transparent which is the problem. And my view would be that just because strongman hasn't always been a paragon of sporting fairness it doesn't mean that it shouldn't aspire to be that in the future.

Mikeneto		...	27-07-2013 @ 20:48
End of an era. Member 4646, 1964 posts	Post Edited: 27.07.2013 @ 21:34 PM by Mikeneto It has nothing to do with seedings really. It should be seeded(which it obviously is), the best should be kept separate until the final. My point is the strongmen get selected and then they basically get to choose if they're in a squat heat or a deadlift heat. From a few comments I have read it seems like Bryce has put certain strongmen that favour deadlift in a squat heat and the strongmen have complained and then been put into a deadlift heat. Now I don't know how this process fully works, I was actually kind of curious hence why I starting the thread. Does he release a first seed and second seed list with events and then asks them if they're happy...they then agree or not and then he jostles them more? But essentially it seems like he picks where everyone goes. But it is probably a moot point because the strongmen in the squat heat generally prefer squats and vice versa. I would just prefer a process of randomness when putting the groups with the events and not having the same guys doing squats all the time. There is 6 events. From his interview it did seem he would like them doing squats to mix it up and maybe run it closer in the heats for ratings...the heats last just as long as the final and also rely on ratings. It does seem like he is in control and does his best to keep everyone happy.

Mikeneto		...	27-07-2013 @ 20:53
End of an era. Member 4646, 1964 posts	Also I may stop posting. The reason I didn't join sooner because I tend to disagree with a lot that is posted on here.

WILLSAN		...	27-07-2013 @ 21:06
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	Mikeneto said:Also I may stop posting. The reason I didn't join sooner because I tend to disagree with a lot that is posted on here. Really? Do you only post in places where everyone agrees with you? If you do, you're right, this is probably the wrong forum to be in! You make good points in your previous post btw.

Mikeneto		...	27-07-2013 @ 21:12
End of an era. Member 4646, 1964 posts	Post Edited: 27.07.2013 @ 21:14 PM by Mikeneto Another thing to add in the equations is keeping nations apart also, which I guess takes out randomness from selecting who is in groups. I have thought about it not a great deal...as per usual the people that actually matter have probably thought about it lots and come up with the most ideal system. I actually really like Colin Bryce he seems Scandinavian nice.

Mikeneto		...	27-07-2013 @ 21:13
End of an era. Member 4646, 1964 posts	WILLSAN said: Really? Do you only post in places where everyone agrees with you? If you do, you're right, this is probably the wrong forum to be in! You make good points in your previous post btw. I have an American bias, this site seems bias against America.


VanillaGorilla		...	27-07-2013 @ 21:28
the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts	Mikeneto said: I have an American bias, this site seems bias against America. OMG are you Derek Poundstone

Mikeneto		...	27-07-2013 @ 21:32
End of an era. Member 4646, 1964 posts	VanillaGorilla said: OMG are you Derek Poundstone No mam

Mark		...	27-07-2013 @ 21:40
Member. Member 2171, 1612 posts	Mikeneto said: I have an American bias, this site seems bias against America. Americans only consider those from 'murica, everyone else in the world isn't blinkered like you Americans are, so objectively consider other people

VanillaGorilla		...	27-07-2013 @ 21:45
the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts

Craig_Pfisterer		...	27-07-2013 @ 21:49
Sugdens 'man' at WSM 2021 Member 1513, 2139 posts SQ 224.5, BP 181, DL 276.5 682.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq	George Michael: You know, say what you will about America. 13 bucks still gets you a hell of a lot of mice. G.O.B.: Who said anything bad about America?

deleted2_20210523		...	27-07-2013 @ 21:53
Member 2606, 11453 posts SQ 170, BP 117.5, DL 215 502.5 kgs @ 91.6kgs UnEq	deleted

WILLSAN		...	27-07-2013 @ 21:59
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	kirkynick said:I have no bias whatsoever... i'm a levelheaded sort of a chap! The only thing that vid says to me is 'if you like curves on a woman, don't go to Russia.'

deleted2_20210523		...	27-07-2013 @ 22:06
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