Which Fed is best for a drug free lifter ?
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| kennybaby |  | Which Fed is best for a drug free lifter ? | 23-03-2016 @ 15:50 |
 Member 2027, 125 posts SQ 175, BP 120, DL 250545.0 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq | What's everyone's opinion on which is best fed for a lifetime drug free masters lifter ? I suppose the options are 1. GBPF 2. BDFPA 3. ABPU (the drug tested arm of the BPU) On the whole IMO i'd probably say the ABPU sounds as if its most likely to be the closest to drug free, as surely with a non tested arm and a lifetime ban if caught, and 2 year ban in untested side,surely guys not drug free would lift in the BPU arm (untested). What's everyone's thoughts ? | ||
| Funky_monkey | | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 15:51 |
 403 forbidden message Member 160, 5121 posts SQ 190, BP 137.5, DL 225552.5 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 23.03.2016 @ 15:52 PM by Funky_monkey Not sure if there has been testing in ABPU yet, but I may be mistaken. I would have said GBPF as they're a very big fed and have established drugs cheats and tested many athletes.Those in ABPU would have easier wins and less to worry about than BPU if they were on gear. Just my 2 eurocents. | ||
| MidE |  | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 16:25 |
Member 5554, 190 posts SQ 212.5, BP 150, DL 245607.5 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq | I think most people will say GBPF but I dislike the approved list they have for belts/ wraps/ singlets | ||
| JackRevans | | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 16:37 |
 'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | If you're drug free then the bdfpa is for you. The British dispensary for powerlifters association will sort you right out with some drugs | ||
| DrD | | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 16:42 |
 #IStandByMillsy Member 4287, 2614 posts SQ 300, BP 310, DL 250860.0 kgs @ 120kgs Eq | My personal opinion... GBPF - greatest depth of field and overall highest level of competition in most classes. Some politics and elitism. Loads of facebook arguing and s**te. ABPU - more tests conducted for AAS (not currently testing for stims etc) [1 in 10 lifters tested @comps], probably less drugs use in tested arm, small, new fed but looks to be very lifter focussed and comps looks great from footage (not been to a comp myself yet). Some rules make lifting easier (lifting head during bench, can be on toes, use of monolift etc). Dislike being referred to as an amateur due to being drugs tested. Membership growing quickly, but still small / new fed. BDFPA - Small but established, some top lifters in pockets, but lower overall standard that GBPF. No knee sleeves, comps seem quite small and low key. Life time bans etc. I generally lifted in GBPF, but am doing one or two ABPU comps this year. | ||
| scruffmcbuff | | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 16:45 |
Lovely ass Congrats. Member 5958, 2315 posts SQ 280, BP 170, DL 300750.0 kgs @ 138kgs UnEq | Any IPF affiliated competitions. They are the biggest and carry the most merit. Cant comment on the others as i compete untested and always have. | ||
| matthewvc | | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 16:47 |
 ‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3225 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq | DrD said:My personal opinion... GBPF - greatest depth of field and overall highest level of competition in most classes. Some politics and elitism. Loads of facebook arguing and s**te. ABPU - more tests conducted for AAS (not currently testing for stims etc) [1 in 10 lifters tested @comps], probably less drugs use in tested arm, small, new fed but looks to be very lifter focussed and comps looks great from footage (not been to a comp myself yet). Some rules make lifting easier (lifting head during bench, can be on toes, use of monolift etc). Dislike being referred to as an amateur due to being drugs tested. Membership growing quickly, but still small / new fed. BDFPA - Small but established, some top lifters in pockets, but lower overall standard that GBPF. No knee sleeves, comps seem quite small and low key. Life time bans etc. I generally lifted in GBPF, but am doing one or two ABPU comps this year. what does the original poster actually want as a lifter *on the platform* in terms of competition, judging, rules, potential to compete at major internationals? choosing somewhere just because they're the 'mostest drug free longest banning fed in history' seems a bit crap reason imo. | ||
| kennybaby | | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 16:53 |
Member 2027, 125 posts SQ 175, BP 120, DL 250545.0 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 23.03.2016 @ 17:05 PM by kennybaby DrD said:My personal opinion... GBPF - greatest depth of field and overall highest level of competition in most classes. Some politics and elitism. Loads of facebook arguing and s**te. ABPU - more tests conducted for AAS (not currently testing for stims etc) [1 in 10 lifters tested @comps], probably less drugs use in tested arm, small, new fed but looks to be very lifter focussed and comps looks great from footage (not been to a comp myself yet). Some rules make lifting easier (lifting head during bench, can be on toes, use of monolift etc). Dislike being referred to as an amateur due to being drugs tested. Membership growing quickly, but still small / new fed. BDFPA - Small but established, some top lifters in pockets, but lower overall standard that GBPF. No knee sleeves, comps seem quite small and low key. Life time bans etc. I generally lifted in GBPF, but am doing one or two ABPU comps this year. Seems reasonable response ... | ||
| kennybaby | | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 17:01 |
Member 2027, 125 posts SQ 175, BP 120, DL 250545.0 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq | matthewvc said: what does the original poster actually want as a lifter *on the platform* in terms of competition, judging, rules, potential to compete at major internationals? choosing somewhere just because they're the 'mostest drug free longest banning fed in history' seems a bit crap reason imo. just want to be on a level playing field, or as level as possible. I'd rather lift untested as a drug free, than against pretend drug frees in the main. | ||
| IainKendrick | | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 19:00 |
 some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | GBPF or BDFPA. You can be a member and lift in both. Look into both and could be as simple as picking a divisional comp that's at the right time and right place. | ||
| PaulLewandowski | | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 19:17 |
Lou and Andy Member 4795, 334 posts SQ 250, BP 155, DL 260665.0 kgs @ 98.9kgs UnEq | The GBPF has the highest level of competition for drug tested athletes, if you want to test yourself against the best in the country then that's your option. I think a lot of people are overestimating the level of PED use in the tested field (in Britain). A lot of people nowadays just like pointing fingers at the strongest guys and accusing them. | ||
| kennybaby | | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 20:20 |
Member 2027, 125 posts SQ 175, BP 120, DL 250545.0 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 23.03.2016 @ 20:23 PM by kennybaby IainKendrick said:GBPF or BDFPA. You can be a member and lift in both. Look into both and could be as simple as picking a divisional comp that's at the right time and right place. That's an option I guess, can you do abpu and lift in other 2 or not ? I may lift at 83ish as a bit of dieting is well overdue. I'm also becoming more of a deadlift specialist as joint etc are generally telling me it's time to cut down on bench and squat, think I could get above 270 this year on deadlift especially as I'm out on squats at present due to hip issues, and I've been more powerlifting focused . Would that have any impact on choice do you think ?? I'm 46 in May, so an m1 IPF and m2 bdfpa. | ||
| IainKendrick | | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 21:17 |
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | BDFPA do single more lift events. GBPF do just the normal bench only comps and occassional push/pull comp at divisional level. BDFPA do a single lift national event. | ||
| hifilover | | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 22:11 |
 Member 3241, 2043 posts SQ 1, BP 192, DL 255448.0 kgs @ 136kgs UnEq | IAWA also http://www.iawa.org.uk/IAWAUK.html | ||
| umpalumpalifter | | ... | 23-03-2016 @ 23:22 |
Member 5836, 366 posts SQ 220, BP 137.5, DL 235592.5 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | for a masters lifter BDFPA has a lot of positives *able to compete in single lift events on any lift *masters classes are in five year brackets as opposed to ten years GBPF has the more competitive level of competition. BDFPA is probably the most drug tested but both follow the same ethos but as BDFPA arent as bound by WADA they can sanction more stringent rules. GBPF allows you to compete elsewhere with only minor restrictions. BDFPA you can only compete with GBPF or IAWA and stay a member. pick one enjoy your lifting | ||