Weightlifting Loses Olympic Funding

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polkovnikostin		...	07-02-2014 @ 10:33
Member 4803, 410 posts	Post Edited: 07.02.2014 @ 10:33 AM by polkovnikostin unit94 said:fk it, I was thinking that funding for weightlifting would be more important than funding for Paralympic powerlifting so now feel free to call me a ct. Are you saying that talentless able bodied lifters are more important than talented disabled lifters?

HUGE_GUY		...	07-02-2014 @ 10:35
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	unit94 said:fk it, I was thinking that funding for weightlifting would be more important than funding for Paralympic powerlifting so now feel free to call me a ct. Do the Paralympics not entertain you?! Joke. It's clear that they only care about medals, not the popularity of the sport. Unless you're saying disabled people aren't important?

HUGE_GUY		...	07-02-2014 @ 10:37
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	polkovnikostin said: Are you saying that talentless able bodied lifters are more important than talented disabled lifters? Ok, i say it as a joke. But this is like the 5th post now...... You sir, are a PRICK! Always seeking an argument. Are you a troll account?

samue1son		...	07-02-2014 @ 10:44
Member 4416, 1372 posts SQ 210, BP 175, DL 240 625.0 kgs @ 122kgs UnEq	So what happens if & when we win medals? Do they THEN start giving funding?

Cuddles		...	07-02-2014 @ 11:04
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280 620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator	Post Edited: 07.02.2014 @ 11:49 AM by Cuddles HUGE_GUY said: It's clear that they only care about medals, not the popularity of the sport. Isn't there evidence that success leads to more participation? Seems they would be funding both if that is the case.

HUGE_GUY		...	07-02-2014 @ 11:23
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	Cuddles said: Isn't their evidence that success leads to more participation? Seems they would be funding both if that is the case. Yes, but most of us can't choose to be in the Paralympics, no matter how inspired we are by it. I don't get your point though. Why fund both? They are both very unpopular sports, weightlifting brings no medals, and i would guess that the other does if they keep funding it? When i say popular, i meant the fanbase, not how many athletes are involved. As a guess i would think many more watch weightlifting competitions than disabled powerlifting.

polkovnikostin		...	07-02-2014 @ 11:28
Member 4803, 410 posts	HUGE_GUY said: Ok, i say it as a joke. But this is like the 5th post now...... You sir, are a PRICK! Always seeking an argument. Are you a troll account? My post was to unit 94. Not sure why you're getting invloved, you blonde bellend.


HUGE_GUY		...	07-02-2014 @ 11:48
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	polkovnikostin said: My post was to unit 94. Not sure why you're getting invloved, you blonde bellend. Keep hiding, troll.

slimsim		...	07-02-2014 @ 11:49
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6051 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	polkovnikostin said: Are you saying that talentless able bodied lifters are more important than talented disabled lifters? HUGE_GUY said: Ok, i say it as a joke. But this is like the 5th post now...... You sir, are a PRICK! Always seeking an argument. Are you a troll account? Whilst Col loves to stir the pot a bit, his post was spot on. As someone who has a disabled cousin and who's partner has a disabled son I think unit94's comment completely makes him look like a c**t! What other assumption can someone take from his post other than he sees disable people as being worth less than their able bodied counterparts.

VanillaGorilla		...	07-02-2014 @ 11:53
the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts	HUGE_GUY said: Keep hiding, troll. Lol, he's not hiding, I think everyone knows who he is

Cuddles		...	07-02-2014 @ 11:54
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280 620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator	I said: Isn't there evidence that success leads to more participation? Seems they would be funding both if that is the case. You're picking one example, I'm talking about the general principle of funding based on success. If success breeds participation, then funding success is helping to fund participation. We might be arguing different points, but I think my point is pretty simple to understand.

HUGE_GUY		...	07-02-2014 @ 11:55
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	VanillaGorilla said: Lol, he's not hiding, I think everyone knows who he is I'm trying to find out through his comments. Most of them he seem genuine. But now and again he seems like a wind-up merchant.

HUGE_GUY		...	07-02-2014 @ 12:03
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	Cuddles said: You're picking one example, I'm talking about the general principle of funding based on success. If success breeds participation, then funding success is helping to fund participation. We might be arguing different points, but I think my point is pretty simple to understand. For me to understand your first point. I would have had to assume you think participation would lead to success. I might have got it wrong. TBH, i think they could throw as much money as they want on weightlifting, i still can't see medals year after year like some countries. It's like our sprinters here. Access to everything they will ever need. Other than the odd freak, they don't do too well. They have the right genetics no?

HUGE_GUY		...	07-02-2014 @ 12:17
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	slimsim said: Whilst Col loves to stir the pot a bit, his post was spot on. As someone who has a disabled cousin and who's partner has a disabled son I think unit94's comment completely makes him look like a c**t! What other assumption can someone take from his post other than he sees disable people as being worth less than their able bodied counterparts. I missed this. Before WW3 starts here, i assumed he meant because weightlifting was more popular. So the fans (like him?) would prefer that the weightlifters were funded over powerlifters. Never assume anything on the internet. Like how i thought Polasdasafski is a prick, i could very well be wrong. Hard to judge.

Gingy		...	07-02-2014 @ 12:23
concept 2 guru Member 1235, 4675 posts SQ 190, BP 137.5, DL 220 547.5 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 07.02.2014 @ 12:29 PM by Gingy HUGE_GUY said: For me to understand your first point. I would have had to assume you think participation would lead to success. I might have got it wrong. TBH, i think they could throw as much money as they want on weightlifting, i still can't see medals year after year like some countries. It's like our sprinters here. Access to everything they will ever need. Other than the odd freak, they don't do too well. They have the right genetics no? I wouldn't say genetics is a major factor in WL success. Not unless I'm missing something. When I think of Chinese I don't think of springy super fast twitch, highly muscular chaps. Except when I think of their weightlifters. If I was wrong and Chinese people do have a freakish genetic predisposition to power then why aren't they dominating in track and field? You might argue they've had some success but by comparison its very minor. In fact they dominate in such a variety of sports it's hard to argue that they have found that many "freaks" even given the size of their population. Instead I'd argue that they have a large base of very good youngsters and they have a very good system in place to replicate previous successes. The reason they chose WL is the same reason we backed rowing and cycling. They previously had success in the sport with a couple and then threw large amounts of money at replicating it with future generations. In a relatively niche sport such as WL this is going to be successful. EDIT: I'm afraid I can't see British WL breaking the cycle any time soon. What we need is a breakthrough athlete who gets medals and is popular. Then we could build on the success of that result. Even if one of our men did fantastically well and came top 6? at the next Olympics (or really even if they medalled!) it's going to be very difficult to convince UK sport to give more funding to WL when so many other sports are doing as well as they are. Young Miss Tyler might have a chance at doing something special in 2016 but its going to be difficult for that to be enough to prioritise it as a sport.

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