Weightlifting Loses Olympic Funding
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| polkovnikostin |  | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 09:13 |
Member 4803, 410 posts | MrSmall said:So two questions come to mind. What was the point of increasing it after the Olympics until now? What will happen to the lifters on the programs with funding? 1. Commonwealth Games. 2. Nothing - they will carry on as normal, without funding. | ||
| HUGE_GUY | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 09:34 |
| Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts | herman said: Ian Wilson just did 170/205 as a Junior. USA is way tougher on steroids than here. That 13 year clarence cummings is also world class if I ever did see it. Is that from the same country that shot putters regularly power clean over 200, and bench almost 300? Maybe they are more strict on just weightlifting there? I'm not saying you can't be good without drugs. But look at what's out there. 77kg guys push pressing 180, 85kg lifter full squatting 320 raw? These poor bas***ds had it against them already, now they will have to work on top of that. The dream is over. Meanwhile, lets fund 7 long jumpers, some of which make more prize money through competitions and sponsors anyway. Lets give the boss of UK athletics 250k a year, enough to fully fund 25 lifters! | ||
| mikex101 | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 09:56 |
 never too old Member 637, 760 posts | Steve said: Non Stamford was 2013 ITU triathlon World Champion and Jodie Simpson runner up so arguably we have the best two women and two of the best three men in the World at Olympic Triathlon!!! Also it is apparently the fastest growing sport in the country. You can't really ask for much more than that can you? So 4 athletes with genuine medal hopes? Your right, cant really ask for much more! Im just curious how many athletes with genuine medal hopes we have to justify the £7.5m budget. Does any of this funding go to grass roots level? or, as it would seem medals are the main priority does it all go to funding the established athletes and next generation? I cant see how nearly £2m/athlete/year can be justified? | ||
| polkovnikostin | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 09:59 |
Member 4803, 410 posts | HUGE_GUY said:Lets give the boss of UK athletics 250k a year, enough to fully fund 25 lifters! What has the salary of the boss of UKA got to do with weightlifting? | ||
| HUGE_GUY | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 10:03 |
| Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts | Post Edited: 05.02.2014 @ 10:04 AM by HUGE_GUY polkovnikostin said: What has the salary of the boss of UKA got to do with weightlifting? Where the money comes from Meaning they could be spreading the money out better across all sports. I don't know about the other sports, but i would guess there is a lot of money wasted | ||
| polkovnikostin | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 10:07 |
Member 4803, 410 posts | HUGE_GUY said: Where the money comes from Meaning they could be spreading the money out better across all sports. I don't know about the other sports, but i would guess there is a lot of money wasted Where is the logic in taking money from high-profile, high-achieving sports and giving it to deadend ones? | ||
| HUGE_GUY | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 10:17 |
| Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts | Post Edited: 05.02.2014 @ 10:27 AM by HUGE_GUY polkovnikostin said: Where is the logic in taking money from high-profile, high-achieving sports and giving it to deadend ones? Yes, f**k the poor. Funnel all the money up to the already rich! Oh wait, we are talking about sports. Because most coaches are volunteer in athletics. Yet just ONE gets 250k. Money well spent EDIT - i just really have a hate for greedy people. You may say 'well good on him, yolo, f**k everyone else, only look out for number one etc', but i actually give a s**t about others. If i accepted that money, i would spread it out to the coaches that really need it. Or i would contact UK sport myself and give them suggestions of where this money can be better spent. Take some money from one man, fund many who work their asses off the represent this country. | ||
| polkovnikostin | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 10:27 |
Member 4803, 410 posts | HUGE_GUY said: Yes, f**k the poor. Funnel all the money up to the already rich! Oh wait, we are talking about sports. Because most coaches are volunteer in athletics. Yet just ONE gets 250k. Money well spent He's entitled to negotiate the best deal for himself that he can and the £250k you quote included a performance related bonus of £90k, which based on UKA's performance at London 2012 was money well spent, in my view. | ||
| HUGE_GUY | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 10:31 |
| Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts | polkovnikostin said: He's entitled to negotiate the best deal for himself that he can and the £250k you quote included a performance related bonus of £90k, which based on UKA's performance at London 2012 was money well spent, in my view. I know. He gets bonuses with medals. Money well spent? Most of coaches think this set up is pointless. The volunteer coaches put in the hard graft and spend their own money training young athletes. When a talent emerges, British athletics will then try to give the athlete a contract so they have full control and say 'look at what we did, we made this athlete, out system works, give more money plz' | ||
| Steve | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 10:58 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | mikex101 said: So 4 athletes with genuine medal hopes? Your right, cant really ask for much more! Im just curious how many athletes with genuine medal hopes we have to justify the £7.5m budget. Does any of this funding go to grass roots level? or, as it would seem medals are the main priority does it all go to funding the established athletes and next generation? I cant see how nearly £2m/athlete/year can be justified? 2nd, 3rd, 5th &8th at the Men's junior worlds last year. 2nd in the women's juniors. Helen Jenkins -former world Champ returning from injury another definite medal prospect ... On top of his GB has top three ranked athletes in most of the different men's and women's paratri rankings who stand chances of medals in 2016 | ||
| HUGE_GUY | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 11:11 |
| Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts | Steve said: 2nd, 3rd, 5th &8th at the Men's junior worlds last year. 2nd in the women's juniors. Helen Jenkins -former world Champ returning from injury another definite medal prospect ... On top of his GB has top three ranked athletes in most of the different men's and women's paratri rankings who stand chances of medals in 2016 Do you know what the athletes get themselves? I can't find the page now, but a few months ago i came across A,B and C standard athletes. A (top level) recieved 27k a year cash, on top of that the medical, training camps and other costs. | ||
| mikex101 | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 11:20 |
never too old Member 637, 760 posts | Steve said: 2nd, 3rd, 5th &8th at the Men's junior worlds last year. 2nd in the women's juniors. Helen Jenkins -former world Champ returning from injury another definite medal prospect ... On top of his GB has top three ranked athletes in most of the different men's and women's paratri rankings who stand chances of medals in 2016 So its not just 4. Makes more sense now I suppose but its still a fair wedge of cash. | ||
| JC | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 11:21 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | HUGE_GUY said: Do you know what the athletes get themselves? I can't find the page now, but a few months ago i came across A,B and C standard athletes. A (top level) recieved 27k a year cash, on top of that the medical, training camps and other costs. http://www.uksport.gov.uk/pages/how-the-funding-works/ | ||
| Steve | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 11:23 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | HUGE_GUY said: Do you know what the athletes get themselves? I can't find the page now, but a few months ago i came across A,B and C standard athletes. A (top level) recieved 27k a year cash, on top of that the medical, training camps and other costs. No, but I've seen something similar. Also I read somewhere that if you start to earn lots of money you loose the 27k | ||
| mikex101 | | ... | 05-02-2014 @ 11:31 |
never too old Member 637, 760 posts | Post Edited: 05.02.2014 @ 11:32 AM by mikex101 That's interesting. in a nut shell. 'in kind' benefit, covering coaching, comp support etc is worth around £55k/athlete. On top of that they can be paid up to £27k although the average is £18.5k. So that's a top whack of £82k costs / podium level athlete. Much less development athletes. Steve mentioned 6 athletes on top of the 4 previously mentioned in triathlon, lets assume they are all podium level and band A - so that £820k tops for those. wheres the other £6.7 million going? Im genuinely interested to know. | ||