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Skip | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 13:57 | |
too large Member 2411, 824 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 300702.5 kgs @ 109kgs UnEq | Darrenmac1988 said: It would probably see more u90's competing at u105 and more u105's at u120. Why would the introduction of a U120 cause more U90s to move to U105? surely if the U90s wanted to do a U105 comp they would anyway regardless of the fact there is a U120 cat? (surely the U105 weights/events wouldnt change) | ||
martinb | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 13:58 | |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | I personally think it would see a lot of 120 to 140 guys dropping some flab, getting in better shape and enjoying comps more if it helped 105s move up, bonus | ||
thosebananas | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 14:00 | |
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | martinb said:I personally think it would see a lot of 120 to 140 guys dropping some flab, getting in better shape and enjoying comps more if it helped 105s move up, bonus i was taking this angle after my current weight gain fun. if your sitting at 140-150... your either got a large amount of muscle and therefore would be able to mix it with the big boys... or your holding 30+ extra kilos of useless fat that you would be better off loosing. it would stop me and others in my position bulking a silly amount in an attempt to get strong enough to compete in opens. | ||
drew | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 14:01 | |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.05.2012 @ 14:01 PM by drew chaos said: Yes - but is it a good thing for the u105 scene? I'm not sure? Not really a problem I think. You could even run them side by side I now disagree with my inters suggestion and agree with all who say same day weigh in etc above | ||
Darrenmac1988 | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 14:01 | |
Your living your dream buddy, never forget that! Member 1873, 923 posts SQ 260, BP 165, DL 335760.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Skip said: Why would the introduction of a U120 cause more U90s to move to U105? surely if the U90s wanted to do a U105 comp they would anyway regardless of the fact there is a U120 cat? (surely the U105 weights/events wouldnt change) I don't see u90's suddenly changing weight class all I mean is if the u120 was made then if some of the bigger u105's (i.e. the guys who are naturally 110kg+) decided to compete at u120 it would open more space in the u105's. If that makes any sense. | ||
martinb | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 14:02 | |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.05.2012 @ 14:04 PM by martinb thosebananas said: or your holding 30+ extra kilos of useless fat that you would be better off loosing. it would stop me and others in my position bulking a silly amount in an attempt to get strong enough to compete in opens. lets be honest, most of the non top open guys are in that boat!(I know I am) | ||
thosebananas | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 14:03 | |
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | martinb said: lets be honest, most of the non top open guys are in that boat! oui, but we have no other option than to reach for the calories to get to the heavy heavy weights. | ||
JC | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 14:09 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | I honestly think guys 115+ should man the f**k up, get stronger and faster, and put on some more weight if needed Further dilution, for a sport growing, and only really still in its infancy in the UK, is not needed You talk about open comps being super heavy, with 420 yokes.....well for example, CoC 105 had 380, which is roughly the equivalent, given the differing bodyweights All national comps are heavy...some move fast with implements, some slow, and some not at all. If you're in the latter two categories, you need to get stronger, its as simple as that (no matter what weight cat you be in) | ||
drew | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 14:10 | |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | Should there be a weightlifting style calculation where a coach says 'drew your 5'6" you compete in the 73's' 'Martin your 6'2" your a 120' Etc (a note for the stupid people, I'm been silly) | ||
drew | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 14:11 | |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | JC said:I honestly think guys 115+ should man the f**k up, get stronger and faster, and put on some more weight if needed Further dilution, for a sport growing, and only really still in its infancy in the UK, is not needed You talk about open comps being super heavy, with 420 yokes.....well for example, CoC 105 had 380, which is roughly the equivalent, given the differing bodyweights All national comps are heavy...some move fast with implements, some slow, and some not at all. If you're in the latter two categories, you need to get stronger, its as simple as that (no matter what weight cat you be in) I never really understood the diluting of sport thing, why would it exactly? | ||
JC | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 14:16 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | drew said: I never really understood the diluting of sport thing, why would it exactly? Lets take PL for example...endless classes, endless age cats You compete in your national comp, and there is two f**king guys in you weight & age class....wahooooo! I'd rather not bother! | ||
ystradboy79 | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 14:16 | |
Chris 'The Magician' Melling Member 1443, 978 posts SQ 270, BP 180, DL 320770.0 kgs @ 135kgs UnEq | Is this not already happening to some extent at bodypower with a open and heavy open class? | ||
JC | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 14:17 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | ystradboy79 said:Is this not already happening to some extent at bodypower with a open and heavy open class? No, its just renaming of intermediate and opens at Bodypower basically | ||
thosebananas | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 14:18 | |
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | JC said: Lets take PL for example...endless classes, endless age cats You compete in your national comp, and there is two f**king guys in you weight & age class....wahooooo! I'd rather not bother! the sport is becoming powerlifting except 5 lifts for max instead of 3 make the sport more exciting willget more people involved is my train of though | ||
JC | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 14:21 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.05.2012 @ 14:21 PM by JC thosebananas said: the sport is becoming powerlifting except 5 lifts for max instead of 3 make the sport more exciting willget more people involved is my train of though Is it f**k! The recent UKSC qual I competed in 5 reps won axle 8 won squat pull was for max 5 of 8 finished farmers rapidly medley was done a bit by some, more by others, and mostly completed by a few hercules hold...winner got 1min+....last was 30secs+ How the f**k that is get anything like PL is beyond me If you're only strong enough to do one rep on each event, shuffle the moving events a few metres, you need to get stronger, its as simple as that | ||
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