Thor Pulling 480kg for Arnold Prep

The_Lone_Wolf said:Until he goes over 500kg on a calibrated deadlift bar and plates, he will get people digging him out.

Superb lift regardless of the setup though. He’s certainly a very strong mong.

AdamT said:
Is it a MUCH easier set up though?
When you look at other lifters who have used the elephant bar, there numbers are not much different
I think using a suit on a whippy deadlift bar would be just as easy? Maybe not?
I have no doubt that Thor will pull over 500 on a similar bar to Eddie and he will continue on with the comp after it
Thor is a mong and his body can handle these heavy weights

WILLSAN said:
your questions make the point. the standard has been set on a different set up than this. if 520 gets pulled there will still be questions. the record wont be broken until its done in the same conditions.
whether we have records or not in sm is a question. if we do though there need to be agreed standards or them to count.

AdamT said:
Is it a MUCH easier set up though?

BigMacca said:
A lot of controversy caused by a training lift (replicating the setup of the lift in an upcoming competition no less) it would seem...
It does seem a bit odd how we are now getting so precious about how records are set, when in the past people just accepted them.
Good examples would be just about every time Big Z set a log record, it was on a different log and anyone who's ever pressed different logs knows that log diameter, length and unladen weight all make a difference in how easy the log is to press.
Also, Bennies 460kg pull was done on uncalibrated plates that were not weighed afterwards yet most seem happy to credit this as the biggest powerlifting deadlift ever...
People seem to be stuck on, yeah well, 480kg is all well and good, but do it on a proper bar! (I have seen lots of references to a 'Stiff Bar' like Eddie used).
From what I've seen, I'm far from convinced that the elephant bar setup actually has any more flex that a texas deadlift bar (you know, the bar specially designed to have more flex to make it easier to deadlift on).
Here's a comparison pic of Thor attempting 501kg on the Elephant Bar last year and Ivan attempting it on the Texas Deadlift bar
https://i.ibb.co/PFBzn2C/501kg-deadlift.jpg
I'd actually give the nod to the Texas bar having more flex, to be honest.
I think the reason the Elephant bar is a different lift, is simply due to weights being so far out from the centre meaning that they want to make the ends of the bar oscillate more.
Hence why lifters with classic good deadlift form (breaking the bar from the floor with hips and chest rising at the same rate), such as Thor don't struggle as much with it as they are in a great position to smoothly lock the weight out. Compared to lifters who let their hips shoot up as the bar breaks the floor (Eddie) who then have to reply on compromised mechanics to lock the bar out, usually very slowly at max weights and with some form of hitch. Do this with a super lively bar and you are in for a bad time - Eddies 465kg on the Elephant bar shows this nicely.
I'm just enjoying watching Thor continue to prgress

KevC86 said:
It isn't easier at all.
Privately even Ed will admit that.
No one who has pulled serious weights on both (other than Ed) has ever suggested the elephant bar is easier and Ed is clearly not an unbiased source on this.