The importance of deloads

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Buddha		The importance of deloads	14-10-2015 @ 18:38
Coached by deine Mutter Member 5887, 145 posts SQ 182, BP 115, DL 200 497.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	This is a controversial question, does a deload impact performance? In american powerlifting, in the westside styled training(elitefts, Jim Wendler) there is often the necessity of deloads, that they are very important - is this true or just american bias? When you look to the more effective and more result based lifters in east europe you find practically no lifters who do the traditional deload(50%) the japanese powerlifters actually train without deloads and never stop training, they just rest if their is a injury. Sheiko lowers the % but still one time in 12 weeks, norwegians also don't deload. So the question is, do deloads result in greater strength or are they just a roided myth, that is popularized among american powerlifters? btw: i asked Sheiko, there will be a video, that adresses the topic. And Pozdeev says yes to deloads, but they are just "somewhat" 70, 80%- deloads.

IainKendrick		...	14-10-2015 @ 18:46
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	Littlers right

The_Lone_Wolf		...	14-10-2015 @ 18:55
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 3005 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275 650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	They have a place, but it is highly individual... There is only so long someone can train 100% before something goes wrong.

Alex76		...	14-10-2015 @ 20:34
Member 4975, 58 posts	Imo... They're only important if you're overreaching enough to need them. They're probably best done by reducing volume rather than weight on the bar. For most people life throws up deloads often enough not to have to bother with planning them.

AdamT		...	14-10-2015 @ 20:48
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5208 posts	I have seen a big difference when deloading. I like to deload after 6 weeks. I guess many more advanced lifters deload less. I never deloaded for years until the last few months. I am still weak, but have improved a lot this last while.

Fazc		...	14-10-2015 @ 21:22
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts	You can't talk about deloads without discussing the entire plan. It's situational. Within the context of one plan, they'll be neccessary. Within the context of another they won't. What's more important is whether the plan makes sense and works within what we know about periodisation. HOW you accomplish that whole rest/work relationship isn't important, the fact you do is.

little_a		...	15-10-2015 @ 09:42
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14379 posts	IainKendrick said:Littlers right That did make me chuckle Kenders mate.


IainKendrick		...	15-10-2015 @ 20:31
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	Glad it did! That was a joke that took most of the life time of this site to get to the punch line lol

IrishMarc		...	15-10-2015 @ 22:51
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320 862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq	You should have lighter peroids of training in your plan on a regular basis. I don't think it should be discussed as a "Deload". More the start of a new accumulation phase or planned detraining after a peak. If you use an overreach or concentrated loading week then you generally need 2 weeks to realise the benefits 1st week with reduced volume and intensity next week with a slight increase. I think if your training plan leaves you physically in need of a deload week you are training with far too much intensity x volume and should look at your training closely.

matthewvc		...	16-10-2015 @ 23:52
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3349 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320 810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq	Alex76 said:Imo... They're only important if you're overreaching enough to need them. They're probably best done by reducing volume rather than weight on the bar. For most people life throws up deloads often enough not to have to bother with planning them. people deload too often because they've read some text calling for every 3rd or 4th week that was based on full-time elite bulgarian lifters doing 8 hour days of training at 'daily max' intensity. they apply this to their own stuff which is typically 2-3 sessions of mainly warming up and 2-3 top sets of squat/bench/dead, not realising 'deload week' in bulgaria was still more work than 3 months of theirs.

drex50		...	17-10-2015 @ 00:11
It's a moonface era now. Member 5901, 956 posts	what will happen if you lift close to max every training session for me it works the best every year i take month or two full rest for ligaments and joints recovery and after come back im again close to my max, and it takes only a week or two to be in best shape again because my body remembers EVERY SESSION MAX TRAINING THIS IS REAL STRENGTH not peaking 1 or 2 times a year this is bulls**t

b15ape1		...	17-10-2015 @ 08:01
British bum sex champ Member 450, 1741 posts SQ 315, BP 212.5, DL 290 817.5 kgs @ 137kgs Eq	drex50 said:what will happen if you lift close to max every training session for me it works the best every year i take month or two full rest for ligaments and joints recovery and after come back im again close to my max, and it takes only a week or two to be in best shape again because my body remembers EVERY SESSION MAX TRAINING THIS IS REAL STRENGTH not peaking 1 or 2 times a year this is bulls**t Donnie your my new hero...until Paul Savage comes back at least!

samue1son		...	17-10-2015 @ 17:14
Member 4416, 1372 posts SQ 210, BP 175, DL 240 625.0 kgs @ 122kgs UnEq	drex50 said:what will happen if you lift close to max every training session for me it works the best every year i take month or two full rest for ligaments and joints recovery and after come back im again close to my max, and it takes only a week or two to be in best shape again because my body remembers EVERY SESSION MAX TRAINING THIS IS REAL STRENGTH not peaking 1 or 2 times a year this is bulls**t Donnie. Lol. No insulina bro.

Buddha		...	30-10-2015 @ 23:19
Coached by deine Mutter Member 5887, 145 posts SQ 182, BP 115, DL 200 497.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	Well, first thank you. And actually could someone explain why there is "no need"? Or is here someone who is in scientific research and who can prove that deloads are just like donuts, make you fat, but taste good? This would be really great.

force10		...	30-10-2015 @ 23:28
Drugs cheat Member 3860, 630 posts SQ 335, BP 210, DL 330 875.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	It's very important to deload I deload every 4th week and as you get older you realy need it

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