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JoniIconSugden Barbell Dubious PBs Committee26-09-2006 @ 12:40 
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one sunday i drank two cans of caffeine drink instead of the usual one. PB?

I think we need guidelines for PB's:

- only in main hardcore mofo movements
- the only exeption to this rule is commonly accepted milestones, such as stacking a machine
- the accepted PB reps should be as follows: single (the ultimate PB), double, triple and 5.
- Another possible rep PB could be 5x5, 3x3 and 2x2 - but i suggest that these are treated with suspicion - if you did a double with something, are you sure you would not have been able to do another one?
- bulls**t PB - currently held by Olly.
littlegirlbunnyIconSugden Barbell Dubious PBs Committee26-09-2006 @ 15:43 
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Post Edited: 26.09.2006 @ 15:44 PM
5 x 5 are good to record PB's on I think Happy

(the thread made me crease up)
tokarIcon...27-09-2006 @ 15:21 
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I propose a strict interpretation - only lifting a weight you haven't lifted before counts as a PB.

Anything less than that is a slippery slope - 5s? Why not sixes? 5x5? What about 3x3? And then there's always the Jonny Mills option of choosing a weight that you happen not to have lifted before, doing as many reps and you feel like and calling it a PB. Or taking your belt off and calling it a beltless PB. Etc etc.
CuddlesIcon...27-09-2006 @ 16:30 
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Incidentally, Bill Starr has recommended in the past to pick a new exercise or rep regime and go for a PB when you arent feeling great. According to him, hitting new pb's, even rather meaningless ones, is good for motivation, enthusiasm, and as he points out, they add up over time.

I have a better proposition. What I classify as a PB for me, is a PB. What you classify as a PB for you, is a PB. You can cheat all you like, but you're only going to be cheating yourself.

I dont see how nailing 5 reps with a weight you havent done 5 reps with before isnt a PB. If my best deadlift for 5 reps is 200, and I manage to do 205 for 5, that's a PB. The key word imo is 'personal'. They are personal bests, not anyone elses, theyre yours. So, seeing as theyre my bests, I think i'll decide what is and what isnt a PB.
tokarIcon...27-09-2006 @ 16:32 
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Originally posted by Olly...
Incidentally, Bill Starr has recommended in the past to pick a new exercise or rep regime and go for a PB when you arent feeling great. According to him, hitting new pb's, even rather meaningless ones, is good for motivation, enthusiasm, and as he points out, they add up over time.

I have a better proposition. What I classify as a PB for me, is a PB. What you classify as a PB for you, is a PB. You can cheat all you like, but you're only going to be cheating yourself.

I dont see how nailing 5 reps with a weight you havent done 5 reps with before isnt a PB. If my best deadlift for 5 reps is 200, and I manage to do 205 for 5, that's a PB. The key word imo is 'personal'. They are personal bests, not anyone elses, theyre yours. So, seeing as theyre my bests, I think i'll decide what is and what isnt a PB.


Sure, I'm not trying to be authoritarian about it! I don't think the Dubious PB Committee idea was supposed to be that serious.

I just think it gets a bit daft and devalues the idea of a PB when every second set in your workout is a PB just because it's an exercise or a rep range or a weight that you haven't done before.
CuddlesIcon...27-09-2006 @ 16:38 
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Yeah I agree with that. Incidentally Ive only hit 1 pb since April 30thUnhappy

With regard to the dubious Pb committee, I think we should be authoritarian. There isnt enough of it about these days, and I think Sugden Barbell should show the world how its done.
RickIcon...30-09-2006 @ 19:16 
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Originally posted by Olly...
Incidentally, Bill Starr has recommended in the past to pick a new exercise or rep regime and go for a PB when you arent feeling great. According to him, hitting new pb's, even rather meaningless ones, is good for motivation, enthusiasm, and as he points out, they add up over time.

I have a better proposition. What I classify as a PB for me, is a PB. What you classify as a PB for you, is a PB. You can cheat all you like, but you're only going to be cheating yourself.

I dont see how nailing 5 reps with a weight you havent done 5 reps with before isnt a PB. If my best deadlift for 5 reps is 200, and I manage to do 205 for 5, that's a PB. The key word imo is 'personal'. They are personal bests, not anyone elses, theyre yours. So, seeing as theyre my bests, I think i'll decide what is and what isnt a PB.


I agree entirely. I use my PBs to track my progress, and it IS progress - at least I think so. Obviously a PB single in a powerlift is much more exciting, but the others are satisfying, motivational, and remind you that you're going in the right direction.

Some of the volume PBs are EXTREMELY satisfying - the first and so far only time I got 100x10x2 on the bench I was about as happy as it's possible to be.
JoniIcon...30-09-2006 @ 20:20 
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thing about marking every new territory as a PB is that it misses the point of progressive training. Of course you always keep doing some extra bits because thats the whole point of training. PBs should stand out from normal training, so there has to be more of a criteria than just something which hasn't been done before.
SparrowIcon...11-10-2006 @ 18:42 
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And then there's always the Jonny Mills option of choosing a weight that you happen not to have lifted before, doing as many reps and you feel like and calling it a PB


You t**t. I never do that, all my PB's are genuine, as in "that's the heaviest weight I have ever lifted for x number of reps" before.
BoarIcon...11-10-2006 @ 19:02 
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t**t , lol.

i got a deadlift five set volume PB , 25 reps @ 180

so whats the accepted rep maxes ?

1 , 5 and 10 ??
little_aIcon...25-02-2007 @ 16:40 
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Originally posted by Boar...
so whats the accepted rep maxes ?

1 , 5 and 10 ??

1,2,3,5,10's can be PB's. You can do 6's and 8's for gay stuff, but the price you pay for doing gay stuff is that you cant set a PB for it. Who sets out to be gayer than last week?
CuddlesIcon...25-02-2007 @ 16:49 
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Lol! Joni's gonna have a field day with this. Dubious PB's AND overuse of the word gay.

Nice one Grin
CuddlesIcon...25-02-2007 @ 16:50 
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By the way Joni, in my above post I was no way referring to the 132.5kg pb that you added to the league table despite it being touch and go and hitting an upright. In no way whatsoever was I referring to that. Not at all.

Well, not much.
JoniIcon...25-02-2007 @ 17:38 
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Originally posted by Olly...
By the way Joni, in my above post I was no way referring to the 132.5kg pb that you added to the league table despite it being touch and go and hitting an upright. In no way whatsoever was I referring to that. Not at all.

Well, not much.


of course not, the thought never crossed my mind Grin
buzzIcon...08-03-2007 @ 09:49 
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Originally posted by Joni...
Ab pulldowns
6x56
6x63
6x70 - felt strong so may as well go heavier:
3-4 x 77 - pb.


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