Shoulder pain and strength loss
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| badmongo |  | Shoulder pain and strength loss | 15-07-2013 @ 19:32 |
 has experience of quad imbalance Member 3676, 427 posts | Just got back from training, had an awful session! My strength is down again and my right shoulder is definitely hurting when I do anything. I don't know what to do, and am really disheartened as only a few weeks ago I pressed 185kg, now I can't even manage 160kg! I'm sure I've done something to my shoulder but have no idea how or what... Has anyone had similar problems? | ||
| Dave85 | | ... | 15-07-2013 @ 19:41 |
to row or not to row ...that is the question Member 1963, 811 posts SQ 202.5, BP 140, DL 265607.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Far too vague for anyone here to give advice other than to say fork out £40 for a decent physio. It's such a complicated joint it could be anything. Or rest and see if it is just a niggle if you don't think it's serious? | ||
| dannyboy73 | | ... | 15-07-2013 @ 19:55 |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 15.07.2013 @ 19:59 PM by dannyboy73 Rest and go to the GP.I destroyed my left shoulder benching through pain month after month until I could not sleep. Five years after an op it still hurts to shoulder press and can only close-grip bench now. Do not continue through pain- see the DR. It might be nothing, better safe than sorry. As Dave says, cant tell from your post what the damage is. My pain ran up my neck and round the back to the rear delt and beyond. SSup and Rota damage...:  Danny | ||
| Dave85 | | ... | 15-07-2013 @ 20:04 |
to row or not to row ...that is the question Member 1963, 811 posts SQ 202.5, BP 140, DL 265607.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | dannyboy73 said:Rest and go to the GP. I destroyed my left shoulder benching through pain month after month until I could not sleep. Five years after an op it still hurts to shoulder press and can only close-grip bench now. Do not continue through pain- see the DR. It might be nothing, better safe than sorry. As Dave says, cant tell from your post what the damage is. My pain ran up my neck and round the back to the rear delt and beyond. SSup and Rota damage...: Danny I went to the GP initially and they referred me to a physio with the NHS. I wouldn't recommend it because their priority is to get you back to work and pain. Not knocking the NHS, it's brilliant for most things but for a guy benching 185 with shoulder pain I'd say find a decent physio. Shop around, find one that works with a decent rugby team for examples that understands shoulder problems and that you probably want to carry on training and avoid rest! Been through 4 physios and now found one I'm really happy with. | ||
| dannyboy73 | | ... | 15-07-2013 @ 20:14 |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 15.07.2013 @ 20:16 PM by dannyboy73 Ok.. Bad mang...If you insist on training through, which you might well do esspecially when you have just peaked on your bench... Please make sure that you are cycling your training and not going all out single rep bench sessions. Im convinced that is why my shoulders are screwed today. Maybe have a pryamid in place to recover i.e 6 rep sets this week, 8 the next then 10.12.10.8.6.4.3. Or work on weak links- close grip, reps for explosive power at speed, board presses heavy dips etc and give bench a miss for a few weeks mate, what harm could that do? Danny | ||
| Hywel | | ... | 15-07-2013 @ 21:02 |
 Member 3126, 626 posts SQ 270, BP 160, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq | I had similar problem while back. Was down to weak rear delts. Was doing loads of pressing, overhead and bench few times weekly, and no rear delt work. Few months of reduced pressing and lots of rowing, rotations, rear flyes and band pull aparts and good as new. | ||
| badmongo | | ... | 16-07-2013 @ 08:38 |
has experience of quad imbalance Member 3676, 427 posts | Thanks for the replies, I don't mind taking time off if its needed but as mentioned I've always had a problem with my right shoulder robbing the stress from the right side of my chest, I thought I had this sorted buy pinning back my shoulders when benching... It's my dominant side so I wouldn't have thought it was a weakness of the shoulder? The comment about rear delts is interesting as I have neglected them at times but I do do upper back work (rows and pull downs), but for about 3 months I was just pressing (no back work) due to another injury. Just to add, I've always pressed for my front delts, I often do side raises but never front, may doing isolation work for front delts as well as rear delts help? | ||
| dannyboy73 | | ... | 16-07-2013 @ 08:51 |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Hit your delts from as many angles as possible when they are injured. Rear, side front and cycle the weights heavy and light. Get the blood moving in there. You should also be doing rotator cuff warm ups: There are plenty of ideas on the net if your unsure. Danny | ||
| JC | | ... | 16-07-2013 @ 09:31 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 16.07.2013 @ 09:31 AM by JC badmongo said:Just got back from training, had an awful session! My strength is down again and my right shoulder is definitely hurting when I do anything. I don't know what to do, and am really disheartened as only a few weeks ago I pressed 185kg, now I can't even manage 160kg! I'm sure I've done something to my shoulder but have no idea how or what... Has anyone had similar problems? Yes lol...I've had lots of problems with my left shoulder for a number of years (I've had a scan and s**t, but the doc was not willing to operate as it doesnt effect me on a normal day to day basis...which is fair enough IMO) When it was good I did a 147 log...now its s**t I doubt I'd press much more than 130 TBH | ||
| dannyboy73 | | ... | 16-07-2013 @ 09:35 |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Tell you dr that you are a bricklayer. That way they will HAVE to operate. They will not check this.( I am a behavioural psychologist) This is how I got my op mate. | ||
| Rodger | | ... | 16-07-2013 @ 12:57 |
 salad dodger *missing* Member 1805, 10367 posts SQ 215, BP 121, DL 240576.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Id say sports physio is definitely the way to go. Can you bench a lot more than you can row? Do you do any rear delt, lower trap / rhomboid strengthening? Do you get plenty of general back work (especially rows in?) | ||
| badmongo | | ... | 16-07-2013 @ 21:42 |
has experience of quad imbalance Member 3676, 427 posts | Just had sports massage and had everything stretched. They also mentioned upper back work For 3-4 months up until 3-4 weeks ago I was only training press due to knee problems, and did very little if any upper back work while pressing 2-3 times a week. This probably didn't help with the imbalence As of the last few weeks I've been pressing once for bench and once for overhead each week, I've been dead lifting once a week also and along side this I do BB row lat Pulldown and face pulls. I can row about 120kg for 5 and have been benching about 160kg for 5 until now, so yes quite a big difference | ||
| dannyboy73 | | ... | 17-07-2013 @ 10:21 |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 17.07.2013 @ 10:22 AM by dannyboy73 Deadlifting once a week? Why not alternate deadlift with power cleans or it could be your back going next!I pulled a muscle in my middle back last year doing deadlift 8 weeks in a row. This repeated strain occured on two other occassions. It has been fine the past 4 months as Ive alternated dead with good mornings and heavy clean- but do high pulls stiff legged deads and heavy hypers every week. Sorry went off subject. | ||
| badmongo | | ... | 17-07-2013 @ 22:46 |
has experience of quad imbalance Member 3676, 427 posts | Based on my last post should I be doing more upper back work and if so what? | ||
| LessThanLuke | | ... | 17-07-2013 @ 22:51 |
 his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 17.07.2013 @ 22:52 PM by LessThanLuke dannyboy73 said:Deadlifting once a week? Why not alternate deadlift with power cleans or it could be your back going next! I pulled a muscle in my middle back last year doing deadlift 8 weeks in a row. This repeated strain occured on two other occassions. It has been fine the past 4 months as Ive alternated dead with good mornings and heavy clean- but do high pulls stiff legged deads and heavy hypers every week. Sorry went off subject. Everyone is different mate. I do a deadlift variation twice a week normally with no back problems. OP you need to do a lot more upper back work. Face pulls, pull ups, rear delt flies, shrugs. | ||