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CarlIconSheiko - Bench only10-11-2008 @ 17:20 
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would this work?? is there a specific bench only one, or do you just do the bench stuff from a regular sheiko cycle?

anyone done this?
just_tIcon...10-11-2008 @ 17:56 
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ur not allowed to do sheiko carl
just_tIcon...10-11-2008 @ 18:01 
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ask me and ill send you my 2 beginner programs that brad sent me!

just do the bench pressing and structure ur squats and deads how u like. Thats what i will be doing after comp i think
RickIcon...10-11-2008 @ 20:45 
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What, is the bench routine you're using at the moment not working for you?
PhilKlidarasIcon...10-11-2008 @ 22:20 
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there is a bench only programme, but it is meant for a candidate for master of sport, KMS, or whatever the old Russian classification is for guys who were natiaonal level and above...i will have a root around for it and type that f**ker up......

alternatively go onto ELITE and find Eric Talment's page and he often gives out the email addy of his coach and i am sure they could put some stuff together for you
CarlIcon...10-11-2008 @ 22:45 
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Rick said:
What, is the bench routine you're using at the moment not working for you?


if i do the same routine twice it looses its effectiveness, do you not feel the same?

thats would be good phil
CarlIcon...10-11-2008 @ 22:47 
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thats twice in a row i might add, and they are only 4 week wonders anyway arent they?
TannhauserIcon...10-11-2008 @ 23:42 
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Carl said:
thats twice in a row i might add, and they are only 4 week wonders anyway arent they?


Carl, I used a 'beginner' Sheiko for four weeks and made some progress on bench. Then the second time around on Sheiko, I made no progress on bench at all Unhappy . I found the poundages a bit light on both cycles and was constantly adjusting them upwards.

I don't see why you shouldn't just extract the bench portion from a programme. It's nothing magical, just repeating the same movement with moderate weights for loads of sets and 2-3 times a week.
PhilKlidarasIcon...11-11-2008 @ 00:21 
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http://www.elitefts.com/sheiko/plan_gime1.htm

this is the base part of the plan, where you work with a lot of volume, but not necessarily the highest intensity weights, this looks bit different from the programme i have in that it is about 5% lighter than the one in the link above, but with that sort of volume, is that a bad thing?? so play it by ear on that part

the peaking phase looks like this:

Comp week1

Mon
ex 2. 50%x3 60%x3 70%3x2 80%x3x6, this percentage of 1rm and then reps followed by sets. The ex 2 bit means the position of the exercise in the day's routine, so in this case ex 2. means exercise 2, you'd prolly be doing something like leg press or something for about 30-40 total work reps beforehand and some sort of aux work after but not much

tues
ex 1. inc press x3x5

Wed

ex1. 50%x3 60%x3 70%x3x2 80%x2x3 85%x1x3

fri

ex1 50%x3 60%x3 70%x3x2 80%x3x5
ex3 55%4 65%x4 75%x4x4

sat

rest

COMP WEEK 2

mon

ex 1 55%x3 65%x3 75%x3x2 85%x2x4
ex 3 50%x3 60%x3 70%x3 80%x3x6

tue

behind neck press x4x5

wed

ex 1 50%x3 60%x3 70%x3x2 80%x2x8

fri

ex 1 50%x3 60%x3 70%x3x2 80%x2x2 85%x2x3 80%x2x2

sat

ex 1 55%x3 65%x3x2 75%x2x4

comp week 3

mon

ex 2 50%x3 60%x3 70%x3x2 75%x2x4

tue

rest

wed

ex 1 50%x3 60%x3 70%x2x2 80%x1x2 90%x1 95-100%x1x2-3

fri

ex 1 50%x3 60%x3 70%x3x2 80%x2x5

sat

ex 1 55%x3 65%x3x2 75%x3x4

COMP week 4

mon

ex 2 50%x3 60%x3 70%x3x2 80%x2x3 90%x1x2 80%x2x2

tue

rest

wed

ex 2 55%x3 65%x3x2 75%x3x2 85%x2x3 80%x3x2

fri

ex 2 50%x3 60%x3 70%x3x2 80%x3x5

sat

ex 1 55%x3 65%x3x2 75%x2x5

COMP week 5

mon

ex 2 50%x3 60%x3 70%x3x2 80%x2x4

tue

rest

wed

ex 1 50%x3 60%x3 70%x2x2 80%x1x3

fri

ex 1 50%x3 60%x3 70%x3x2 75%x2x4

sat

rest

Comp week 6

mon

ex 1 50%x3 60%x3 70%x2x2 75%x1x2

tue

rest

wed

ex 1 50%x3 60%x3x2 70%x1x3

thurs

rest

fri

rest

sat

COMP

that the thing....suggests doing leg presses a fair bit in stead of squats, but there should be no reason not to add in as your shoulders see fit :-)

add in lat work as needed by you, this is something you should know ahead of time whether you need to do it or not...also, i have read that some DB flys are of use, not as a developing exercise but more as a therapeutic exercise to stretch the pecs after that much benching, maybe 5 sets of 10 reps LIGHT

and if you wanna sub in exercises, sub in ones that are of similar developmental nature eg military press for PBN not lateral raises etc

hth,
phil
CarlIcon...11-11-2008 @ 08:14 
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cheers guys, i will do it for 4 weeks and see how things develop
marcIcon...11-11-2008 @ 10:50 
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bye bye shoulders
IainKendrickIcon...11-11-2008 @ 10:51 
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marc said:
bye bye shoulders


Hello 'sexy boogie hips' Tongue
marcIcon...11-11-2008 @ 10:54 
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IainKendrick said:
marc said:
bye bye shoulders


Hello 'sexy boogie hips' Tongue

f**king grebos lol
aaron_lohanIcon...11-11-2008 @ 14:10 
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Tannhauser said:
Carl said:
thats twice in a row i might add, and they are only 4 week wonders anyway arent they?


Carl, I used a 'beginner' Sheiko for four weeks and made some progress on bench. Then the second time around on Sheiko, I made no progress on bench at all Unhappy . I found the poundages a bit light on both cycles and was constantly adjusting them upwards.


In my opinion this is the biggest mistake- taking a program then changing it, the percentages are set that way for a reason, you change the program and its effectiveness will reduce. The weights may feel light for a reason.
IainKendrickIcon...11-11-2008 @ 14:13 
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aaron_lohan said:
Tannhauser said:
Carl said:
thats twice in a row i might add, and they are only 4 week wonders anyway arent they?


Carl, I used a 'beginner' Sheiko for four weeks and made some progress on bench. Then the second time around on Sheiko, I made no progress on bench at all Unhappy . I found the poundages a bit light on both cycles and was constantly adjusting them upwards.


In my opinion this is the biggest mistake- taking a program then changing it, the percentages are set that way for a reason, you change the program and its effectiveness will reduce. The weights may feel light for a reason.


Tannerhauser seems to have done well the way he has done it, but in general I'd agree with Aaron. Do it verbatum the 1st time and see how it goes.

Is this meant to be a bench only cycle, ie taking it easyish on the squats and deadlifts?

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