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EllD90IconSciatica & disc bulge/protrusion11-04-2014 @ 14:15 
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Post Edited: 11.04.2014 @ 14:15 PM by EllD90
Had an MRI last Sunday and got the results today. Won't be able to discuss my options/referrals with the Dr until Tuesday.

Basically I've got:
Generalised disc bulge at L4/5 level
Disc protrusion at L5/S1 level
Right-sided sciatica.

I'm doing flat bench (no arch), pull ups and db curls at the moment.

Do you think I should stop doing this completely? Has anyone got any rehab methods from being diagnosed with the same symptoms? Any help/advice would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Elliot
MrSmallIcon...11-04-2014 @ 14:19 
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EllD90 said:Had an MRI last Sunday and got the results today. Won't be able to discuss my options/referrals with the Dr until Tuesday.

Basically I've got:
Generalised disc bulge at L4/5 level
Disc protrusion at L5/S1 level
Right-sided sciatica.

I'm doing flat bench (no arch), pull ups and db curls at the moment.

Do you think I should stop doing this completely? Has anyone got any rehab methods from being diagnosed with the same symptoms? Any help/advice would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Elliot


sorry to hear all of that!

do you (well, have you in the past) "arched" a lot on all of your lifts?
MattD90Icon...11-04-2014 @ 14:24 
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Really do sympathise mate. I doubt those things would do any harm as long as no big arch on bench

I would see a physio with sports-related experience to get the best blend of expertise but an actual knowledge of lifting, a lot of them are refreshingly lenient and will tell you what you can and can't do

take it easy
EllD90Icon...11-04-2014 @ 14:25 
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My arch wasn't excessive on bench, not ridiculous lean back on strict pressing. My squats weren't good morning, maybe some sets were a bit backy, but nothing major.

I first felt something in my hip area after a heavy deadlift session, but carried on pushing on the build up to a comp. I think you can see my lower back rounded in the video, which probably caused some damage. But the damage was probably caused further when I ignored the niggle and it gradually got worse and didn't rest up.
EllD90Icon...11-04-2014 @ 14:30 
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MattD90 said:Really do sympathise mate. I doubt those things would do any harm as long as no big arch on bench

I would see a physio with sports-related experience to get the best blend of expertise but an actual knowledge of lifting, a lot of them are refreshingly lenient and will tell you what you can and can't do

take it easy


Apparently my doc's husband is a sports physio, so hoping I can get some solid advice.

Thankfully my back is in no pain. Just get a dull ache in my hamstring/ass throughout the day, but is painful when bending over or getting up from my chair etc...
ThingIcon...11-04-2014 @ 14:48 
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Post Edited: 11.04.2014 @ 14:50 PM by Thing
EllD90 said:Had an MRI last Sunday and got the results today. Won't be able to discuss my options/referrals with the Dr until Tuesday.

Basically I've got:
Generalised disc bulge at L4/5 level
Disc protrusion at L5/S1 level
Right-sided sciatica.

I'm doing flat bench (no arch), pull ups and db curls at the moment.

Do you think I should stop doing this completely? Has anyone got any rehab methods from being diagnosed with the same symptoms? Any help/advice would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Elliot


i have something similar but damage to the nerves in L3, L4 & L5 plus issues with the SI joint. so can symoathise with you big time.

hope you can get something that helps
rossphillipsIcon...11-04-2014 @ 17:24 
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Post Edited: 11.04.2014 @ 17:27 PM by rossphillips
Mine was l5 s1 disc bulge to the left, my foot whent numb , (nerve damage) it stoped my left glute / ham / calf from workin correctly and they all shrank ,I was popping codien like sweets couldn't walk properly , only thing that hurt was squats and deads , that was a year ago and it's only just showing signs it's getting better , I have another appointment on the 17th ,they still have given me a scan though
Funky_monkeyIcon...11-04-2014 @ 21:10 
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Arching will obviously compress the vertebrae, and at an angle such that it will exacerbate the problems you already have.

Do you feel fine after benching? If you feel OK, then carry on moderately. I'm not a professional so my advice would be don't do anything daft.
nitsua19Icon...12-04-2014 @ 02:01 
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Post Edited: 12.04.2014 @ 02:17 AM by nitsua19
Its normally flexion coupled with rotation that can really exacerbate a bulge/protrusion. You want to limit the range as much as you can and avoid any painful or risky positions; Any Aggressive or repeated movements applied to the spine durig the early stages could make things worse and delay your recovery.

Try to reduce any inflammation first with ice and NSAID's

As for rehab, bracing to start with and sagittal plane movements then progress to anti rotation exercises. You need to alleviate the cause of the problem.

This should be all you consider really for now, basically helping yourself heal.

I have a really good paper on disc herniation if you want it? Its really long but a very interesting read and a massive appendix of possible exercises.
ben66Icon...12-04-2014 @ 10:18 
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Similar to my issues. I've found not arching so hard/over arching my lower back and relying much more on stomach muscles keeps it at bay. Takes a bit of practice though. Ab work and KB swings (for glutes) helped me a lot too Happy
VinnyJonesIcon...12-04-2014 @ 10:52 
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I did the Bill Starr Lower Back Rehab programme... fixed me right up. Slight dull ache sometimes due to the Sciatica but by making the musculature stronger you take more load away elsewhere.
EllD90Icon...12-04-2014 @ 11:33 
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High rep broomstick/empty bar good mornings and deadlifts up to the knee?
nitsua19Icon...12-04-2014 @ 11:56 
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Yeah practise 'hip hinging' so you are flexing but not through your lumbar
VinnyJonesIcon...14-04-2014 @ 13:28 
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EllD90 said:High rep broomstick/empty bar good mornings and deadlifts up to the knee?


Yep, that's it!
MrSmallIcon...14-04-2014 @ 14:42 
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VinnyJones said:I did the Bill Starr Lower Back Rehab programme... fixed me right up. Slight dull ache sometimes due to the Sciatica but by making the musculature stronger you take more load away elsewhere.


That looks really good.

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