Sciatic nerve
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| MrSmall |  | Sciatic nerve | 27-04-2011 @ 19:11 |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Seem to have twinged this mofo. Any advice? Sending little shocks down my leg, and a bit more painful around the tailbone and hip area. | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 19:13 |
 Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | this stretch helps relieve sciatic type of pains for me. | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 19:14 |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | lol sorry here it is - | ||
| Thing | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 19:16 |
 a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | What will put up. | ||
| George_Winston | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 19:18 |
 The Crossfit KingPin Member 941, 1810 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 285645.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | I did that stretch above, and also alot of hamstring stretches, hip flexors and also the one laying on your front and push your self up (hips stay on the floor) i did them as much as i could through the day | ||
| SMed | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 19:19 |
 a splendid chap, unlike some bitches on here Member 1670, 1705 posts SQ 190, BP 112.5, DL 220522.5 kgs @ 89.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 27.04.2011 @ 19:20 PM by SMed Do not do anything whilst it's being a b**ch. By that I mean squats, deadlifts and overhead stuff. I've had a long standing lumbar disc issue from years ago. It kinda settled down a few years ago and I started training. It's been mostly fine, though I get the odd little reminder from time to time.But I did something to it the other day (non-lifting related) but still did some light-ish squats and deadlifts, f**kED it up again. It's now settled down again, but it was pretty bad. You can read the last few pages of my log to see. It's either the disc herniating or bulging out, or there's some other inflammation around that area that is aggravating the nerve. Given the sort of training we all do here, it's possible to be a disc issue. Do not lift right now whilst it's acting up. Give it a week or so, if it's still a problem, see the GP you'll get an X-ray. If it's still bad, he may refer you on for further tests. One thing that may have helped me with this last episode was doing spinal decompression type activities. So I did a s**t-tonne of chin-ups and pull-ups. I also did some static hangs using straps and a chin-up bar. Strap up and try to completely relax your entire body, especially your core muscles. This is a weird and uncomfortable thing to do, but do it often for bouts of a minute or preferably more. Are you getting odd sensation below knee on the outside part of your lower leg? | ||
| MrSmall | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 19:21 |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | SMed said: Are you getting odd sensation below knee on the outside part of your lower leg? Yes, what's that about? Thanks for the replies guys! Seems pretty common. | ||
| SMed | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 19:35 |
a splendid chap, unlike some bitches on here Member 1670, 1705 posts SQ 190, BP 112.5, DL 220522.5 kgs @ 89.5kgs UnEq | MrSmall said: Yes, what's that about? Thanks for the replies guys! Seems pretty common. Just confirming that it is in fact the sciatic nerve root that the disc is pressing. That part controls sensation to the lateral side of the lower leg. If you don't get that, the disc is pressing somewhere else and not the sciatic nerve. I had this pain literally for about 3 years solid, but about 5 years ago, before I ever started training. It was a nightmare, especially standing up and sitting back down, it would take about 1-2 minutes before the pain would settle down and I could relax. I had it x-rayed, and my vertebrae had shifted, one over the other slightly. So the disc was bulging out and pressing the nerve. Not really a whole lot they can do unless it's so severe you can't walk or you lose bladder control (this is rare), then surgery is an option (a not so great one sometimes). But mine was tolerable. But then I realised that it just went away, and I was fine. Shortly after, I picked up lifting. From the beginning I used a belt, as I was always scared of re-injury. It's come back a few times, usually just a mild bit of annoying pain, but nothing too bad. It seemed to happen during a time that I would coincidentally stop training for a few months (exams, moving, travelling etc), and the time off allowed it to heal. But over the past year, there's been practically no pain at all. I do get weird electrical sensations on the lateral part of my lower leg, and hot/cold sensations when I'm driving for example. But no pain, until the other day. But as I said, that has gone away after about 3-4 days. Unfortunately, once someone gets a disc issue, it's almost guaranteed to be a life-long issue. If the vertebrae have shifted, they don't tend to go back to normal on their own. But I can say in my experience, training has been the best possible thing I could've done for my back. Previously, I would just not do anything that involved my lower body, and as a result the pain was there for years and my back and legs just atrophied. Now, the injuries may comeback, but the back is much MUCH stronger and I feel I have the ability to get it to heal/resolve. There is another condition that has similar problems, it's a condition called Piriformis Syndrome. It happens when the piriformis muscle gets inflamed, and the sciatic nerve runs right by that muscle, and it gets irritated, resulting in similar symptoms. But I think this is usually in people that sit down all day long and don't really get up, move around and train much. Like I said, if you're worried, and it's not getting better, go and see your GP, they'll send you off for an X-ray for sure. /rambling | ||
| MrSmall | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 19:55 |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | How do you know if its a disc issue/permanent or just a temporary inflammation thing? | ||
| SMed | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 19:59 |
a splendid chap, unlike some bitches on here Member 1670, 1705 posts SQ 190, BP 112.5, DL 220522.5 kgs @ 89.5kgs UnEq | It's difficult I think. Give it time, possibly get it imaged. Even with imaging, in some cases the imaging can look normal, but it's still a disc. And other times, the image can look dodgy, yet there's no back pain at all. It's a very annoying injury to have, and can play on your mind sometimes. Just give it some time, take it easy and be sensible right now. | ||
| MrSmall | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 20:33 |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | I have a competition next Sunday, what are the suggestions fellas? | ||
| Rico | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 20:44 |
 Sugdens very own David Dimbleby Member 1403, 3716 posts SQ 220, BP 115, DL 260595.0 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq | MrSmall said:I have a competition next Sunday, what are the suggestions fellas? You'd be mad to compete given what SMed has been saying. | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 20:46 |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | a session of low weight, high rep + volume deads usually releives the pain for me in the short term. ive kept up sessions like that regularly and my lower back is the best its been for a long time. | ||
| SMed | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 21:02 |
a splendid chap, unlike some bitches on here Member 1670, 1705 posts SQ 190, BP 112.5, DL 220522.5 kgs @ 89.5kgs UnEq | MrSmall said:I have a competition next Sunday, what are the suggestions fellas? Talk to a Doc that knows about training. I know that would be hard, you can ask Dr Hazburn, but the advice anyone can give you through the internet will be extremely limited. Even if you went to see your GP, it's unlikely you will get it imaged in that time. You could do it privately I guess. I can't advise you what to do. But if I was still having textbook sciatic symptoms like this for the majority of time running up to a strongman (especially!) comp, I would probably not do it right now.  (Just to clarify, I'm not a doctor, only a medical student which means my knowledge is only slightly better than a random person off the street. The stuff I've read on this is more to do with the fact that I've suffered from this myself) | ||
| SMed | | ... | 27-04-2011 @ 21:05 |
a splendid chap, unlike some bitches on here Member 1670, 1705 posts SQ 190, BP 112.5, DL 220522.5 kgs @ 89.5kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said:a session of low weight, high rep + volume deads usually releives the pain for me in the short term. ive kept up sessions like that regularly and my lower back is the best its been for a long time. I have found the same thing, especially for muscular pain. But spinal issues are different. Sometimes light deadlifts with SUPER strict form can help too as it puts a bit of traction on the spine, and hopefully the disc can get off the nerve roots, but this would be lucky. I would start doing hanging type exercises, and if the pain eases up, do some SUPER 100% strict light deadlifts. | ||