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slow_lift_joeIconReal life and martial arts30-08-2018 @ 23:51 
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What are your opinions on martial arts ?
The reason I ask is I am considering putting my children into a martial arts class, more for their confidence and exercise and as they move to high school in a few years time. They had some issues in school with small time bullying/aggression from certain children.

They do their swimming and general sports but not a dedicated martial art.

Easy going kids, very relaxed and peaceful.

I did Judo when I was in school and it helped me with confidence.

These days I prefer my powerlifting and strength training.

The best martial in the 21 century would be for Striking :- Boxing and Muay Thai
Grappling :- Ju Jitsu and Judo.

I think the likes of kung fu and Taekwondo offer little in terms of real value in a street attack or bullying.

However doing Muay Thai would give the child some injuries.
matthewvcIcon...31-08-2018 @ 02:22 
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if you remember back to your own school days, fights always ended up in grappling and rolling, kids don’t have the power to punch or kick someone spark out - imo jujitsu ftw, arm bars, choke holds and the general ability to get on top in a grapple.
scruffmcbuffIcon...31-08-2018 @ 06:08 
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You really cant beat boxing. Ive done my fair share of various sports since i was a wee whipper snapper.
Boxing,maui thai ,judo and grekko roman wrestling. Imo any of those will do a child good.
BillytheoldIcon...31-08-2018 @ 16:38 
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Martial arts are great for kids. Experiences, real life no time to think real live physical chess minus drain banage bandage years of MMA is also great.
KevC86Icon...31-08-2018 @ 20:10 
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Any contact fighting is a fine choice. Id shy away from karate or the like though as they learn to pull their shots and in real life encounters they can often end up reflexively doing the same.

Personally id recommend either muay thai or boxing. I dont think they're the best, but they're easily accessible and serve the purpose very well.
nailsIcon...03-09-2018 @ 08:47 
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I would choose a defensive system rather than a pure martial art. The difference is mindset. It depends a lot on the school and the instructor but generally you want something that does have an element of contact and is not solely a sport. I train Krav Maga for this reason. The tactic element and situations awareness are all part of the system. This part is just a valuable as the fighting itself.
JackRevansIcon...03-09-2018 @ 11:50 
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sounds like an awesome idea.

I went from a nice peaceful primary school straight to a detritusy secondary school and had a really rough time. Eventually lifting became my martial art. Perhaps if they start now they wont have to learn to defend themselves the hard way.
JohnIcon...03-09-2018 @ 12:31 
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Imo, if it's self defence confidence and fitness I'd go boxing,Mauy Thai ,mma ,
I think these are are the best one as they are simple to learn and so you can get fast and powerful pretty quick,
Also no disrespect but I've seen many "black belts" fail miserably in real fights,this I think is because they often train self defence with a compliant person,the holds and throws can be complicated,and they are thought to pull back strikes at the last minute.Happy
unit94Icon...03-09-2018 @ 16:58 
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Forget self defence anything, boxing, kickboxing, may Thai, wrestling, judo would all be great but I'd just go with a jiu jitsu gym and he'll be fine!
slimsimIcon...03-09-2018 @ 17:58 
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unit94 said:Forget self defence anything, boxing, kickboxing, may Thai, wrestling, judo would all be great but I'd just go with a jiu jitsu gym and he'll be fine!


I'd disagree, not that jiu jitsu isn't great, it absolutely is and my mate is always showing me things which make my eyes boggle. I do think the biggest problem with it is the fact that it's difficult to try and deal with more than 1 assailant and if you're on the floor your in a prime position to get your head caved in by one of the other fellas mates.

For that reason I think boxing is the best option. You stay on your feet, you can deal with multiple assailants as throwing a punch is quick and it's nowhere near as technical as jiu jitsu so you can become pretty efficient, pretty quickly.

In addition to that boxers, I think, are probably amongst the fittest athletes out there so if you need to run there's a good chance, provided you aren't caught in the first 300m, you'll be able to get away.

I think all martial arts/combat sports bring something to the party though.
dannyboy73Icon...03-09-2018 @ 18:56 
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Post Edited: 03.09.2018 @ 18:57 PM by dannyboy73
Gymnastics...

My kids have been doing since 1 years old. Now 2, 2 and 3 the boys are barrel chested, can climb walls no fear of heights and are flexible and have a good grip power and leg drive.

I will also be sending them to martial arts from 5. Will be whatever is available!

TBH, I also agree with Jack, senior school is savage. Therefore, weightlifting done with free-weights light for 20 rep sets for 20 minute sessions from 7...
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...03-09-2018 @ 21:21 
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I think if you exude a calm/quiet physical confidence you can nearly always avoid aggro in the first place.

I feel my lack of height combined with quite a beefy build really works in my favour. I'm visibly not an easy target, but not tall enough to invite testosterona fuelled challenges Happy
AdamTIcon...03-09-2018 @ 22:30 
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Wayne_Cowdrey said:I think if you exude a calm/quiet physical confidence you can nearly always avoid aggro in the first place.

I feel my lack of height combined with quite a beefy build really works in my favour. I'm visibly not an easy target, but not tall enough to invite testosterona fuelled challenges Happy


You're lucky I have never met you. I would drive my size 10's against your moon face!
unit94Icon...03-09-2018 @ 22:46 
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If you've got multiple assailants you're probably f**ked anyway however if it's a bit of grief at school if one of them gets choked out the others are probably not gonna want to have a go themselves haha
HenkIcon...03-09-2018 @ 23:07 
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I think you'll get bias from whatever people have experience of. You need real experience in something to give a valuable opinion of it, but unless you've experienced the others to any depth you can't really compare.

I'm an ex-martial artist, so will naturally suggest a martial art - I feel the discipline kids get from that is invaluable, and as Wayne suggests gives them a confidence that stops them being targets. I've taught kids and have seen lots of kids change massively as they've progressed in the art. The "pull all their kicks and punches" argument may occur in some arts, but I haven't witnessed it - obviously we didn't let kids smack each other around, but there are other ways to train and exhibit power that don't involve knocking each others' heads off.

In terms of art they always say a kicker will beat a puncher, and a grappler will beat a kicker - but that's one on one and for people of equal skill. We used to train against multiple opponents at times, and that's quite a different proposition, if that's likely to be a factor then search out an art that specialises in it. My art was termed self defence, we learned kicking and punching (and blocking) as well as defence against grabs, locks and weapons (just the weapons side alone is very useful these days with knives about).

Having experience of being in a situation where you have to fight to get out is probably the most valuable of all - basically at some point they'll have to know what that feels like so they know how they'll react. Experienced instructors know how to bring that about without people getting hurt, so make sure you check out the credentials of whoever you decide to got with.

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