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brynevansIconProblem families22-07-2012 @ 23:58 
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I saw this article this week:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9416535/Problem-famil...

I guess we can all recall people from school or locally that would fit the model to which the author refers but can the government realistically legislate to prevent these types of families from sliding into "problem family" status. Is threatening with ASBO, removal from council property and benefit cuts actually going to work or just punish the very children they are trying to protect?
FazcIcon...23-07-2012 @ 01:03 
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People do have the freedom to have as many kids as they like; but there is an undeniable link between socioeconomic factors which include crowding, financial hardship and the like to poor achievement in schools.

The argument could be that it's the parents who are punishing their kids by bringing them into a world ill-equipped to financially deal with the number of kids, limiting their options for the future and leading them to further poverty in their lifetimes.
danbaseleyIcon...23-07-2012 @ 02:04 
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Fazc said:People do have the freedom to have as many kids as they like; but there is an undeniable link between socioeconomic factors which include crowding, financial hardship and the like to poor achievement in schools.

The argument could be that it's the parents who are punishing their kids by bringing them into a world ill-equipped to financially deal with the number of kids, limiting their options for the future and leading them to further poverty in their lifetimes.


This is the internet - there is no place here for well reasoned, thought out ideas.
StetecIcon...23-07-2012 @ 04:45 
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Far too many career single mothers/problem families about who churn out another kid the moment the last one gets close to the age where they'd lose benefits. No intention of working, just full of excuses as to why they shouldn't have to go to work. "F*ck it pet it's ok, you sit at home all day moaning about why you haven't got enough money for another bottle of cider after buying your cigarettes, never mind making sure the kids eat decent food, put your feet up, I'll go to work and pay for it all with my taxes." familiar situation around here and most places I'd imagine.
leeboyIcon...23-07-2012 @ 08:44 
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after seeing lots of these families i can tell you the only reason money is a problem is because it all goes on booze and drugs. they are problem families because the parents were c**ts and their parents were c**ts. apart from taking the kids away at an early age which is impossible there is very little to be done. they have always been there and always will be.
chaosIcon...23-07-2012 @ 08:48 
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leeboy said:after seeing lots of these families i can tell you the only reason money is a problem is because it all goes on booze and drugs. they are problem families because the parents were c**ts and their parents were c**ts. apart from taking the kids away at an early age which is impossible there is very little to be done. they have always been there and always will be.


Couldn't agree more!!! The c**ts in village near me are c**ts doing the same c**tish things their parents did before them except now its easier for em to get drugs! Bunch of c**ts!

Unfortunately there's no simple answer to this problem!
PeteHodgsonIcon...23-07-2012 @ 08:52 
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When they get into trouble dye their heads blue so they are easily recognisable. Then start a scheme whereby us honest hard working citizens can pay to go up on rooftops with sniper rifles and take them out. Makes money for the government and stops the f**kers breeding. Double whammy.
Too harsh?

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leeboyIcon...23-07-2012 @ 09:19 
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the sad part is you can see them getting the humanity smashed out of them as they get older and older. they start with lovely normal little kids and gradually that get turned to c**ts. some days its very hard for me to keep my mouth shut
WiegieboardIcon...23-07-2012 @ 09:33 
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danbaseley said:
This is the internet - there is no place here for well reasoned, thought out ideas.

Lol I liked this post.

I feel bad for kids in this situation. I personally feel that guidance goes a long way when you're young and when you don't have a solid role model who can teach you what you need to know, things can become very difficult.
I also agree that a lot of the time, these children go without and suffer because of simple cigarette and alcohol problems. The older I get, the more I dislike cigarettes and alcohol but this may in part be because I'm on a tight budget myself and if I did like them, I wouldn't be eating.
Drink can be wonderful in the right situation, and can be a horror in others. I used to teach kids sport during the summer and I felt terrible for the kids whose parents weren't up to scratch. You could see the common difficulties they all shared that other children didn't have and you just knew the poor wee buggers could go through their whole lives with that hanging over them.
The situation in reality would be very difficult to deal with as often punishing the parent results in punishingthe child, many of whom might be misguided and capable of good things.
Luke82Icon...23-07-2012 @ 09:53 
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I don't know what has happened to the personal pride of these people. They are the modern equivalent of medieval beggars, wallowing in filth begging for turnips, I couldn't bear to be like that!

It's a crap scenario for the kids involved, like people have said without role models how are they going to break the cycle? People tend to take the path of least resistance and if a life on benefits is the norm all your young life it's unlikely that you're going to change.

Thinking about this whilst watching Jez Kyle is not the best combo ha ha. My mind is saying it's a complex problem and we need to help these people blah blah blah, but my heart is saying screw the lazy scum, drown em in a rain water filled skip.
Sean_ClarkeIcon...23-07-2012 @ 09:56 
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Post Edited: 23.07.2012 @ 09:57 AM by Sean_Clarke
f**k the c**ts. They need culling, castrating, tortured then shot.
spam_upIcon...23-07-2012 @ 10:00 
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Sean_Clarke said:f**k the c**ts. They need culling, castrating, tortured then shot.


no use sitting on the fence, say what you think Grin
Notional_CluesIcon...23-07-2012 @ 10:12 
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Luke82 said:
They are the modern equivalent of medieval beggars, wallowing in filth begging for turnips,


Luke82 said:
but my heart is saying screw the lazy scum, drown em in a rain water filled skip.

Couple of quality quotes there.

I particularly like the idea of 'green' torture, using recycled rain water.
slimsimIcon...23-07-2012 @ 10:17 
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These families are on the whole the reason why the UK is becoming dumber and dumber. Nice, "normal" people with a good education pop out 1-2 nice normal children who also grow up to be nice normal, well rounded people whilst these c**ts have half a dozen kids who then grow up to be c**ts like their parents and have 6 more of the blighters.

Just 2 generations down the line the nice people have increased their population to 4 and the c**ts have increased to 36. WE ARE f**kED!!
Sean_ClarkeIcon...23-07-2012 @ 10:48 
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slimsim said:These families are on the whole the reason why the UK is becoming dumber and dumber. Nice, "normal" people with a good education pop out 1-2 nice normal children who also grow up to be nice normal, well rounded people whilst these c**ts have half a dozen kids who then grow up to be c**ts like their parents and have 6 more of the blighters.

Just 2 generations down the line the nice people have increased their population to 4 and the c**ts have increased to 36. WE ARE f**kED!!


Fantastic post.

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