News From The GBPF EXEC - Suspended Lifters

PeteHodgson said:
To be fair Tom, that's only relevant if you're strong. Which is your own fault. If you were a fair bit weaker you'd fm find more people would've believed you.
So there!
:-)

Tom_Martin said:People react strangely to failed drugs tests. A lot of people take the stance of "well, if he got caught, then how many others must be doing it and getting away with it". Drug testing is not random, it is definitely targeted in the GBPF. A failed test and a banned cheat is surely a triumph of drug testing, not an exposure of how flawed the system "must be".

The real kicker is, if all drug tests came back clean, you all cry about how easy it must be to pass a test if no one failed, and by extension, everyone must be taking drugs.

So you can't win either way, either no one fails because drug testing is too s**t to catch anyone, or when cheats do get caught it means there must be hundreds of other cheats that didn't get caught.


A big consideration when moving to untested powerlifting for me was "NO ONE f**kING BELIEVES YOU ANYWAY".

KevC86 said:Id be curious what you think the ratio of users vs non-users is Tom?

Based on the very small sample this thread covers it suggests about 1 in 7 in the GBPF.

I cant begin to understand why you think so few of the untested lifters are using? Surely a huge part of the reasoning behind lifting untested is to allow freedom to use whatever people want (i appreciate this could as easily be recreational drugs and wont always necessarily be AAS)

KevC86 said:Id be curious what you think the ratio of users vs non-users is Tom?

Based on the very small sample this thread covers it suggests about 1 in 7 in the GBPF.

I cant begin to understand why you think so few of the untested lifters are using? Surely a huge part of the reasoning behind lifting untested is to allow freedom to use whatever people want (i appreciate this could as easily be recreational drugs and wont always necessarily be AAS)

matthewvc said:
I chose GPC initially because it was:
a) convenient comp near me at time
b) allowed knee wraps which i prefer.
c) looked to be selling powerlifting more as an 'extreme sport' (i like this), than the somewhat dry GBPF/BDPFA format.
most people i've talked to in the fed had similar non-gear reasons for starting out with this fed.
if we choose to board the enanthate express later on is beside the point, but at least if we do, we do it with a clear conscience ;-)

Tom_Martin said:
As a strength athlete, the motivation to win a competition at the expense of lifting less weight baffles me sometimes.

LessThanLuke said:
Yup. 1/3rd of the GBPF is a silly figure. I don't even think it would be close to 1/3 of the untested feds. Most people don't like the idea of drugs... Go to a GPC/BPU comp, there will be a s**t tonne of novices and women. These people aren't f**king juicing.

Rick said:I agree with Tom. If you're in the GBPF and going overseas in a position to challenge for medals - i.e. If you're genuinely good - you're gonna get tested a lot.

I've never been tested, because I'm pants.

JonA81 said:

Rick said:I agree with Tom. If you're in the GBPF and going overseas in a position to challenge for medals - i.e. If you're genuinely good - you're gonna get tested a lot.

I've never been tested, because I'm pants.

Steve said:Whilst I would hope/guess in the GBPF the number of cheats is actually very small I suspect it's very different at an International level in the IPF where I suspect there are a far higher number of cheats especially amongst the top lifters.

matthewvc said:
I chose GPC initially because it was:
a) convenient comp near me at time
b) allowed knee wraps which i prefer.
c) looked to be selling powerlifting more as an 'extreme sport' (i like this), than the somewhat dry GBPF/BDPFA format.
most people i've talked to in the fed had similar non-gear reasons for starting out with this fed.
if we choose to board the enanthate express later on is beside the point, but at least if we do, we do it with a clear conscience ;-)