News From The GBPF EXEC - Suspended Lifters
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| CAJ |  | ... | 17-05-2016 @ 12:13 |
 I recommend the track - Slut Machine Member 6043, 957 posts SQ 350, BP 195, DL 350895.0 kgs @ 150kgs UnEq | I agree. Plus if you are gonna use, where is the fun in coming off and running pct in to comp as per this example? You may aswell compete balls to the wall at the peak of your cycle, halo'd up to your tits  | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 17-05-2016 @ 12:49 |
 No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | CAJ said:I agree. Plus if you are gonna use, where is the fun in coming off and running pct in to comp as per this example? You may aswell compete balls to the wall at the peak of your cycle, halo'd up to your tits As a strength athlete, the motivation to win a competition at the expense of lifting less weight baffles me sometimes. | ||
| matthewvc |  | ... | 17-05-2016 @ 12:58 |
 ‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3393 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: As a strength athlete, the motivation to win a competition at the expense of lifting less weight baffles me sometimes. exactly. i'm only satisfied if my total goes up and i hit numbers that reflect gym work - don't care if I lose or win. masters is a crap shoot at best as far as competition goes. one comp you could be up against delroy, norcup etc. another just noobs or even no-one. | ||
| bcrusher | | ... | 17-05-2016 @ 13:51 |
 Member 4865, 240 posts | BigMacca said: It's called having a bit of moral fibre mate - Some people just don't care Someone very famous in powerlifting said (wrt drugs) "It's your life and you can do what you want" and there is a song with those lyrics. I would re-write them as Lyrics re-written said: It's your life and you can do what you want. Do what you like. But please don't take PEDs in a tested fed/sport, compete in an untested fed. | ||
| fctilidie | | ... | 17-05-2016 @ 16:53 |
Grandad Goatse Member 2494, 5035 posts SQ 120, BP 110, DL 125355.0 kgs @ 67kgs UnEq | Must be pretty humiliating to get caught cheating when there are untested Feds you can compete in. I know I'd never live it down with people I know. | ||
| KevC86 | | ... | 17-05-2016 @ 17:46 |
 Member 5141, 4464 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 350830.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq | fctilidie said:Must be pretty humiliating to get caught cheating when there are untested Feds you can compete in. I know I'd never live it down with people I know. ^^ this. | ||
| newhybrid | | ... | 18-05-2016 @ 14:53 |
 Member 3714, 637 posts SQ 265, BP 177.5, DL 265707.5 kgs @ 97kgs Eq | matthewvc said:Clomid means you're doing pct, means you've been doing gear, same when other ancillaries or that you're going for IVF. | ||
| JonA81 | | ... | 19-05-2016 @ 11:43 |
 Member 2216, 2243 posts | newhybrid said: or that you're going for IVF. | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 19-05-2016 @ 11:46 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5209 posts | GBPF is probably riddled with users. I won't put a percentage on a guess, but would anybody be surprised at least 1/3 are on?? | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 19-05-2016 @ 11:50 |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | AdamT said:GBPF is probably riddled with users. I won't put a percentage on a guess, but would anybody be surprised at least 1/3 are on?? Adam, you've often shown a lot of support for me, and there's plenty reasons to like you, so I'm going to do my best to put this delicately. That is a complete dickhead suggestion to make. No it is not a f**king third lol. I doubt a third of British powerlifters from every fed combined are taking PEDs, let alone those who have chosen to lift in a tested fed. | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 19-05-2016 @ 11:57 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5209 posts | Tom_Martin said: Adam, you've often shown a lot of support for me, and there's plenty reasons to like you, so I'm going to do my best to put this delicately. That is a complete dickhead suggestion to make. No it is not a f**king third lol. I doubt a third of British powerlifters from every fed combined are taking PEDs, let alone those who have chosen to lift in a tested fed. I'm a sceptic by nature Tom lol I still support you. | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 19-05-2016 @ 12:22 |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | People react strangely to failed drugs tests. A lot of people take the stance of "well, if he got caught, then how many others must be doing it and getting away with it". Drug testing is not random, it is definitely targeted in the GBPF. A failed test and a banned cheat is surely a triumph of drug testing, not an exposure of how flawed the system "must be". The real kicker is, if all drug tests came back clean, you all cry about how easy it must be to pass a test if no one failed, and by extension, everyone must be taking drugs. So you can't win either way, either no one fails because drug testing is too s**t to catch anyone, or when cheats do get caught it means there must be hundreds of other cheats that didn't get caught. A big consideration when moving to untested powerlifting for me was "NO ONE f**kING BELIEVES YOU ANYWAY". | ||
| PeteHodgson | | ... | 19-05-2016 @ 12:27 |
 Has little understanding of the sugden Member 677, 11338 posts SQ 165, BP 125, DL 220510.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: A big consideration when moving to untested powerlifting for me was "NO ONE f**kING BELIEVES YOU ANYWAY". To be fair Tom, that's only relevant if you're strong. Which is your own fault. If you were a fair bit weaker you'd fm find more people would've believed you. So there! :-) | ||
| KevC86 | | ... | 19-05-2016 @ 12:28 |
Member 5141, 4464 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 350830.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq | Id be curious what you think the ratio of users vs non-users is Tom? Based on the very small sample this thread covers it suggests about 1 in 7 in the GBPF. I cant begin to understand why you think so few of the untested lifters are using? Surely a huge part of the reasoning behind lifting untested is to allow freedom to use whatever people want (i appreciate this could as easily be recreational drugs and wont always necessarily be AAS) | ||
| LessThanLuke | | ... | 19-05-2016 @ 12:32 |
 his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 19.05.2016 @ 12:32 PM by LessThanLuke KevC86 said: I cant begin to understand why you think so few of the untested lifters are using? Surely a huge part of the reasoning behind lifting untested is to allow freedom to use whatever people want (i appreciate this could as easily be recreational drugs and wont always necessarily be AAS) I know a s**t load of lifters who compete untested who are natty. Less strict rules, more fun lifting environments, less hassle. There are plenty of reasons to lift non GBPF other than drug testing. | ||