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matthewvcIcon...20-05-2016 @ 17:50 
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Evis said:
They lift more both due to being stronger and different rules. (Depth, raw-with-dad etc) and they are also way more muscular/shredded physique-wise.
Hard to beat that for us living the nattylife.


dan's physique is bb-level good esp when he's lower weight classes.
there's a limit in terms of max weight a natural can be at a certain BF and it's surprisingly low once
BF is at single digit levels. a 6 foot guy would be lucky to be much over 13 stone shredded.
sparksIcon...20-05-2016 @ 18:27 
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Boar said:good lad millsy !!

cheating aside

don't know the other dude.


Apparently he couldnt go .he was asked to stay till 10pm .he offered bloods but nothing in place for this procedure.
AdamTIcon...20-05-2016 @ 19:15 
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matthewvc said:
dan's physique is bb-level good esp when he's lower weight classes.
there's a limit in terms of max weight a natural can be at a certain BF and it's surprisingly low once
BF is at single digit levels. a 6 foot guy would be lucky to be much over 13 stone shredded.


I'm 6 foot. Used to be 14 stone and wore 32 inch waist trousers. Wasn't shredded by any means. I reckon I would of been just over 12 stone if shredded then.

I'm bigger and carrying more fat and muscle now. So perhaps I could hold conditioned 13 stone. I'm going to try and reach single digit fat after next comp.
b15ape1Icon...20-05-2016 @ 19:30 
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matthewvc said:
dan's physique is bb-level good esp when he's lower weight classes.
there's a limit in terms of max weight a natural can be at a certain BF and it's surprisingly low once
BF is at single digit levels. a 6 foot guy would be lucky to be much over 13 stone shredded.


Im also 6 foot and have always been a heavy set lad,but many moons ago(around 2003) i stripped down to 16 stone dead and was 8 percent body fat and at the time was a fooking shagging machine.

Now i reckon bb shred would of been around 14 and a half stone but to be fair id be like a skeleton!!
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matthewvcIcon...20-05-2016 @ 20:30 
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b15ape1 said:
Im also 6 foot and have always been a heavy set lad,but many moons ago(around 2003) i stripped down to 16 stone dead and was 8 percent body fat and at the time was a fooking shagging machine.
Now i reckon bb shred would of been around 14 and a half stone but to be fair id be like a skeleton!!
Roll-Eyes


Last time I tried this foolishness, I got down from 97kg high teens to 86kg at around 9% - no supps, even stimulants. abs were showing but way off stage level. What I noticed was the bit to about 12% BF was easy with no loss in strength, but to go another 3% was accompanied by a large drop in lifts, mood and general energy. Worse of all it was a cut basically driven by paranoia over being 'too fat' to be with some girl nearly half my age... Talk about 'Peak muscletalk'
b15ape1Icon...20-05-2016 @ 20:42 
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matthewvc said:
Last time I tried this foolishness, I got down from 97kg high teens to 86kg at around 9% - no supps, even stimulants. abs were showing but way off stage level. What I noticed was the bit to about 12% BF was easy with no loss in strength, but to go another 3% was accompanied by a large drop in lifts, mood and general energy. Worse of all it was a cut basically driven by paranoia over being 'too fat' to be with some girl nearly half my age... Talk about 'Peak muscletalk'


Lol....yes i forgot to mention i was weak as piss and have always been drug free.
It took real will power to stay at that weight, basically turned into a cardio bunny...the call of iron bashing always comes back

Grin
FazcIcon...20-05-2016 @ 22:59 
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BigMacca said:
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Except Simon Norcup.


He is too busy with the BNP now.

The immigrants have been taking all his drugs I expect


Soz
BigMaccaIcon...21-05-2016 @ 04:37 
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Fazc said:
BigMacca said:
LeedsMiniPower said:
Tom_Martin said:
Except Simon Norcup.


He is too busy with the BNP now.

The immigrants have been taking all his drugs I expect


Soz

You're just ruining it for everyone!
IainKendrickIcon...21-05-2016 @ 11:30 
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Fazc said:
Soz


Cannot even be bothered to learn the language!

It's 'soz, lol'!
General_illIcon...22-05-2016 @ 00:29 
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Post Edited: 22.05.2016 @ 00:29 AM by General_ill
Has milsy surfaced yet. Will he, I dunno. I'm shocked, genuinely believed he was a true natty.

You live and learn.

Onward to Gpc
bcrusherIcon...22-05-2016 @ 08:05 
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General_ill said:Has milsy surfaced yet. Will he, I dunno. I'm shocked, genuinely believed he was a true natty.

You live and learn.

Onward to Gpc

He has been in this thread several times but not commented. Would like to hear his side of the story as it doesn't look good if the winner of the British is popped on a drug test. Due to lifter disqualification, the results had to be re-jigged.
newhybridIcon...22-05-2016 @ 09:01 
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Benvie said:
So would you say someone doing their squats in a raw gbpf meet with a pair of knee wraps on hidden under their knee sleeves is OK as long as they don't get caught?
Cheating is cheating whatever way you look at it. I would tend to agree with what others have said that if you use PEDs in a tested federation (especially given the amount of options to compete untested in strength sports) then you're just a dick.


so should they be sent to jail too? lol.
newhybridIcon...22-05-2016 @ 09:06 
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Evis said:
They lift more both due to being stronger and different rules. (Depth, raw-with-dad etc) and they are also way more muscular/shredded physique-wise.
Hard to beat that for us living the nattylife.


actually the depth rules are all pretty much the same across all feds. its just that the IPF doesn't judge to its own rules. a crease of the hip at the waist just bellow the top of the knee squat is a good squat in the rules of every fed. but the IPF judge to a foot bellow. so not to the rules at all. making their judging of depth as innacurate and s**t as Southern Powerliftings.
unit94Icon...22-05-2016 @ 11:24 
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newhybrid said:
actually the depth rules are all pretty much the same across all feds. its just that the IPF doesn't judge to its own rules. a crease of the hip at the waist just bellow the top of the knee squat is a good squat in the rules of every fed. but the IPF judge to a foot bellow. so not to the rules at all. making their judging of depth as innacurate and s**t as Southern Powerliftings.


Nah not really
matthewvcIcon...22-05-2016 @ 12:23 
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unit94 said:
Nah not really


I think IPF is ok from watching the classic and equipped worlds.
no gifts given but not a red light fest either. As i said before Ray Williams efforts
were looking just in and getting whites (which is exactly as it should be)

The one fed that has got a bad rep for excessive depth is the USAPL.
Jesse Norris squats a while back getting red lighted were utterly ridiculous.
he couldn't get any deeper if he tried.

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