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AdamTIcon...20-05-2016 @ 12:23 
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Nobody should go to prison. But anybody that fails a test, should be made to pay the cost of the test. If they refuse, then it can go to court.
Tom_MartinIcon...20-05-2016 @ 12:55 
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matthewvc said:
i don't think anyone on either side of the drug use spectrum disagrees.


Except Simon Norcup.
IainKendrickIcon...20-05-2016 @ 13:17 
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some nice relaxing jazz.
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ChrisMcCarthy said:
But cheated who?
If you and I agree to have a double overhand deadlift competition - but agree between us that we are going to use hook grip - and everyone else who is a fan of double overhand deadlift competitions knows that they actually always use hook grip, then who exactly is being cheated in that scenario?


Your scenario is irrelevant. The fed decides on the rules. You agree, and give your word to uphold those regs. You don't you have cheated. There is no 'grey' in this regard. The only 'grey area' is how an individual rationalises their cheating.

To your actual statement; both of us have cheated if we have gone outside the rules of the comp that was set.
Tom_MartinIcon...20-05-2016 @ 13:24 
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Cheating in tested powerlifting is f**king stupid.

The IPF prestige argument is bulls**t. You're going to get rich and famous winning an IPF gold at all costs? No. No one gives a s**t. The only people who give a f**k about IPF medals are other IPF lifters. OH it's not about the fame, it's the personal achievement? Congratulations, your personal achievement was deceiving people and cheating more talented lifters out of a medal. You must be proud.
CAJIcon...20-05-2016 @ 13:29 
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I don't understand the argument here..

Drug free means Drug free, end of story.

It doesn't mean drug free but actually I'll do drugs anyway because everyone else is doing it.

Again, not against the use but for f**k sake go and lift in a non tested fed!
gingergainzIcon...20-05-2016 @ 13:57 
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Cloud Is used for a Oct pal.
gingergainzIcon...20-05-2016 @ 13:58 
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I meant pct pal predictive text lol.
LeedsMiniPowerIcon...20-05-2016 @ 14:43 
Getting fat is just as dumb as using PED's
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Tom_Martin said:
Except Simon Norcup.


He is too busy with the BNP now.
BigMaccaIcon...20-05-2016 @ 14:59 
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understanding of the sport, little he has.
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LeedsMiniPower said:
Tom_Martin said:
Except Simon Norcup.


He is too busy with the BNP now.

The immigrants have been taking all his drugs I expect
PaulLewandowskiIcon...20-05-2016 @ 15:07 
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JackRevans said:
What kind of freak limbed lifter has a 230kg squat with a 255kg deadlift? if i squatted 230kg id be deadlifting at least 600kg


can confirm raw squat around 225kg (w/o wraps) with a 255kg deadlift. poverty deadlift leverages make a big difference
Unhappy
IainKendrickIcon...20-05-2016 @ 15:14 
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PaulLewandowski said:
can confirm raw squat around 225kg (w/o wraps) with a 255kg deadlift. poverty deadlift leverages make a big difference
Unhappy


I squared 255 and deaded 255 at my last comp...s**t deadlifting to blame. Luckily my squat wasn't at its best so didn't out do my dead lol
AdamTIcon...20-05-2016 @ 15:21 
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Doesn't Ed Hall have quite short levers for his height? Hasn't harmed his deadlift too much.

Short arm lifters, just need to use more legs and power to drive the weight from the floor. Also probably not do as much heavy volume.

I'm doing the Lillebridge method at the moment. I like the idea of only deadlifting/squatting heavy on alternate weeks.
matthewvcIcon...20-05-2016 @ 16:07 
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Tom_Martin said:Cheating in tested powerlifting is f**king stupid.

The IPF prestige argument is bulls**t. You're going to get rich and famous winning an IPF gold at all costs? No. No one gives a s**t. The only people who give a f**k about IPF medals are other IPF lifters. OH it's not about the fame, it's the personal achievement? Congratulations, your personal achievement was deceiving people and cheating more talented lifters out of a medal. You must be proud.


find that the highest profile powerlifters to the 'lay lifter' (crossfitters, rugby players etc) are the untested raw ones like zahir, lilliebridge, dan green, malanichev.
EvisIcon...20-05-2016 @ 16:25 
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matthewvc said:
find that the highest profile powerlifters to the 'lay lifter' (crossfitters, rugby players etc) are the untested raw ones like zahir, lilliebridge, dan green, malanichev.


They lift more both due to being stronger and different rules. (Depth, raw-with-dad etc) and they are also way more muscular/shredded physique-wise.

Hard to beat that for us living the nattylife.
ChrisMcCarthyIcon...20-05-2016 @ 17:19 
Lost his pen, then found his pen. #phew
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Tom_Martin said:Cheating in tested powerlifting is f**king stupid.

The IPF prestige argument is bulls**t.


Thanks for unequivocally backing my argument Tom! Happy

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