Maintaining strength whilst dropping bodyweight

matthewvc said:
and that's the point, until you take a max of the floor, paul you're just guessing. - 15" partials and axels and whatever may address a weakness initially.. and is it a weakness? if you're weak off the floor, 260 x 2 off 15" sounds 'about right' for a 280 pull. getting strong at 15" won't fix weak back/quads from a full range pull.

AdamT said:I have 4 inch blocks. How much more should I be able to pull for a max single? I think I'd be lucky to get 20-30kg more.

I understand everyone is different, but would be curious to see the difference some of you guys have from varying heights!

PaulSavage said:
It depends on height and how long the legs and back are, arm length, and what muscles are weak or strong. What is generally the case though is if you are short you should be a good bit stronger as you heighten the bar.

AMH_Power said:
Height as minimal effect on deadlift. Taller people are generally better at deadlift as limb lengths are longer, in particular arms lengths. If a shorter person stands next to a taller person and let their arms hang down, there may be a foot in height difference but only a 4 inch difference in where the fingers end when hanging. In conventional the mechanical weakness (disregard muscular) is just below the knee as the moment arm against the spine is greatest here.
A taller lifter has a longer window to create a higher velocity when hitting this weakness. If a short lifter and tall lifter exerts 2000N of force to a load requiring 1500N, the velocity will be greater in the same relative position on the taller lifter (but so will time as displacement is greater).
If the weak area requires 2500N of force as seen by the joints, then momentum may see this area carried through even though the force demand isn't met. The taller lifter having this velocity is less likely to fail at the mechanical weakness.
In fact, tall lifters with good start strength dominate the conventional deadlift for this very reason.

AMH_Power said:
Height as minimal effect on deadlift. Taller people are generally better at deadlift as limb lengths are longer, in particular arms lengths. If a shorter person stands next to a taller person and let their arms hang down, there may be a foot in height difference but only a 4 inch difference in where the fingers end when hanging. In conventional the mechanical weakness (disregard muscular) is just below the knee as the moment arm against the spine is greatest here.
A taller lifter has a longer window to create a higher velocity when hitting this weakness. If a short lifter and tall lifter exerts 2000N of force to a load requiring 1500N, the velocity will be greater in the same relative position on the taller lifter (but so will time as displacement is greater).
If the weak area requires 2500N of force as seen by the joints, then momentum may see this area carried through even though the force demand isn't met. The taller lifter having this velocity is less likely to fail at the mechanical weakness.
In fact, tall lifters with good start strength dominate the conventional deadlift for this very reason.

AMH_Power said:
Height as minimal effect on deadlift. Taller people are generally better at deadlift as limb lengths are longer, in particular arms lengths. If a shorter person stands next to a taller person and let their arms hang down, there may be a foot in height difference but only a 4 inch difference in where the fingers end when hanging. In conventional the mechanical weakness (disregard muscular) is just below the knee as the moment arm against the spine is greatest here.
A taller lifter has a longer window to create a higher velocity when hitting this weakness. If a short lifter and tall lifter exerts 2000N of force to a load requiring 1500N, the velocity will be greater in the same relative position on the taller lifter (but so will time as displacement is greater).
If the weak area requires 2500N of force as seen by the joints, then momentum may see this area carried through even though the force demand isn't met. The taller lifter having this velocity is less likely to fail at the mechanical weakness.
In fact, tall lifters with good start strength dominate the conventional deadlift for this very reason.

AMH_Power said:
Height as minimal effect on deadlift. Taller people are generally better at deadlift as limb lengths are longer, in particular arms lengths. If a shorter person stands next to a taller person and let their arms hang down, there may be a foot in height difference but only a 4 inch difference in where the fingers end when hanging. In conventional the mechanical weakness (disregard muscular) is just below the knee as the moment arm against the spine is greatest here.
A taller lifter has a longer window to create a higher velocity when hitting this weakness. If a short lifter and tall lifter exerts 2000N of force to a load requiring 1500N, the velocity will be greater in the same relative position on the taller lifter (but so will time as displacement is greater).
If the weak area requires 2500N of force as seen by the joints, then momentum may see this area carried through even though the force demand isn't met. The taller lifter having this velocity is less likely to fail at the mechanical weakness.
In fact, tall lifters with good start strength dominate the conventional deadlift for this very reason.

AdamT said:
What if you're tall and have short arms? My curse!

AdamT said:
What if you're tall and have short arms? My curse!

AMH_Power said:
Uh oh haha.
If you have short legs, long spine, short arms, s**t ham strings... Then I'd worry.

AMH_Power said:
Uh oh haha.
If you have short legs, long spine, short arms, s**t ham strings... Then I'd worry.

BigMacca said:This is pretty much where I was before I went to Florida