Keys to sustainable progress
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| Rob |  | Keys to sustainable progress | 15-10-2007 @ 11:57 |
 Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | What do you think are the most important things to keep making progress? Is it just bullishly sticking at it - although you do see people who have been around the game for a while and are decidedly unimpressive, although most old-timers usually have good lifts and have obviously put in the hard yards to get where they are or were. For me I think it has to be injuries, I know with less injuries I would have made far more consistent progress. But this brings me to another point; when making progress you should be careful and gradual even when you know you could push harder and get stronger? Or should you hammer it all out for a while and the drop back a bit? Horses for courses? | ||
| Thing | | ... | 15-10-2007 @ 12:15 |
 a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | variation chage thing in training has alway helped me progress, it may be slow progress but atleat the number move upwards | ||
| PorkPie | | ... | 15-10-2007 @ 13:13 |
 Do hugs, not drugs. Member 136, 712 posts SQ 380, BP 242.5, DL 330952.5 kgs @ 110kgs Eq | Number one - having decent genetics to lift weights, or at least having the genetics to react to heavy training by becoming stronger. Good training partners and having fun in the gym. Not missing training, ever, not even for your Mrs birthday. Training intelligently to overcome weaknesses. Training your worst lift the hardest. Plenty of good food, not worrying too much about getting a little fat either. Using gear intelligently, with respect and as a supplement to all of the above, not as a replacement for any of it. | ||
| Sparrow | | ... | 15-10-2007 @ 20:08 |
 always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | But this brings me to another point; when making progress you should be careful and gradual even when you know you could push harder and get stronger? Or should you hammer it all out for a while and the drop back a bit? Horses for courses? 2 schools of thought here. Personally I only know one way - train hard. I'll deload when i'm injured/on holiday. Of course I don't go for max singles all the time or anything like that, but I like to go pretty 'close to the wire' on most exercises as this is how I feel I make progress. | ||
| Rick | | ... | 15-10-2007 @ 20:17 |
 I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10034 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | Get good training partners and a good coach. Do as you're told. | ||
| Tony | | ... | 15-10-2007 @ 20:19 |
 Is partial to the odd bender. Member 6, 10239 posts SQ 280, BP 192.5, DL 317.5790.0 kgs @ 102kgs Eq | Consistancy. | ||
| aaron_lohan | | ... | 15-10-2007 @ 20:25 |
 Hasn't always been a bench press specialist Member 44, 1907 posts SQ 252.5, BP 220, DL 210682.5 kgs @ 83kgs Eq | Rick made a good point there, good coaching, avoid any serious injuries and try not to take time off if you can avoid it, some people have a month off and then it takes them a month to get back to where they were, so in effect you have lost 2 months worth of progress, if this happens a few times then you are losing a lot of progress. Theres a saying that people overestimate what they can do in a year but underestimate what they can do in a decade, you have to take a long term view in this game. | ||
| Tony | | ... | 15-10-2007 @ 20:27 |
Is partial to the odd bender. Member 6, 10239 posts SQ 280, BP 192.5, DL 317.5790.0 kgs @ 102kgs Eq | Originally posted by Rick... Get good training partners and a good coach. Do as you're told. I have neither of those things. IMO they are beneficial but not essential. | ||
| Javier | | ... | 15-10-2007 @ 20:42 |
NOBODY expects the spanish inquisition !!!! Member 150, 21 posts SQ 250, BP 170, DL 250670.0 kgs @ 110kgs Eq | Originally posted by PorkPie... Number one - having decent genetics to lift weights, or at least having the genetics to react to heavy training by becoming stronger. Good training partners and having fun in the gym. Not missing training, ever, not even for your Mrs birthday. Training intelligently to overcome weaknesses. Training your worst lift the hardest. Plenty of good food, not worrying too much about getting a little fat either. Using gear intelligently, with respect and as a supplement to all of the above, not as a replacement for any of it. Listen to Pork Pie. He knows what he is talking about. | ||
| Wigan | | ... | 15-10-2007 @ 20:45 |
 a cynical old scrote Member 68, 6840 posts SQ 255, BP 132.5, DL 250637.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | A lot of things, many of which have been mentioned already. Add to this list, attitude and enthusiasm, much of which can come from the environment in which oyur training, training partners, coaches, but most of all from within. The epitomy of this type of focus, enthusiasm and attitude is the like of Tony, banging out the training week in week out on his Jack Jones, no-one to feed off, no coach nothing just him and the bar, takes some doing | ||
| Titch | | ... | 15-10-2007 @ 21:54 |
 One Sexy MoFo Member 101, 2470 posts | Originally posted by Tony... Consistancy. Ditto that. I believe consistency with diet and training are the key. | ||
| Joni | | ... | 15-10-2007 @ 22:04 |
 left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | this year has been good even though i havent put on mad amounts to my total etc, but it has still been the best training year so far. many factors: most importantly: no serious injuries (knock wood). Used to get dicky lower back all the time, this year i have managed to keep it at bay. How? Dont really know, but strongman training has added variety and loads more corse strength into the mix. seconly, consistancy, not in terms of routines, but not missing sessions. Trained on our 9 years anniversary day and so on  Havent missed a single session this year, couple due to man flu, couple due to just being f**ked from comps, but other than that, no other reason has made me skip sessions.Training partners: It was good to train with Olly last spring, we were both fanatical about what we wanted to achieve, so that worked out fine. And strongman training with Milsy, stronger than me, but not out of reach and sometimes i manage to edge a bit ahead. This will keep us on our toes and we will both push eachother. We also never miss sessions, other than the getting married excuse I should get my ass to adlington more often for sure. | ||
| Carl | | ... | 15-10-2007 @ 22:43 |
 Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | titch i think diet is the ey in as much as you shouldnt be in a calorie deficit, ever but i would say that being 19 stone i think not being injured, consistency and recognising your weaknesses are the most important factors in making progress | ||
| Alex | | ... | 15-10-2007 @ 22:52 |
 Picca Boo Member 16, 1204 posts SQ 140, BP 130, DL 200470.0 kgs @ 77kgs UnEq | Originally posted by PorkPie... Number one - having decent genetics to lift weights, or at least having the genetics to react to heavy training by becoming stronger. Good training partners and having fun in the gym. Not missing training, ever, not even for your Mrs birthday. Training intelligently to overcome weaknesses. Training your worst lift the hardest. Plenty of good food, not worrying too much about getting a little fat either. Using gear intelligently, with respect and as a supplement to all of the above, not as a replacement for any of it. Looks to make complete sense to me! Especially points 1, 4, 5 and 6. | ||
| AndyH | | ... | 16-10-2007 @ 12:12 |
Member 143, 237 posts SQ 340, BP 245, DL 310895.0 kgs @ 120kgs Eq | Basically what Pork Pie said Time Effort Focus | ||