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LessThanLukeIcon...16-09-2013 @ 11:25 
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JC said:Probably as pointless as unsuited lifting TBH


This. Everything we do is bloody pointless.
Savolainen87Icon...16-09-2013 @ 11:29 
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Post Edited: 16.09.2013 @ 11:33 AM by Savolainen87
Just wathced Donnie Thompson fail 800 raw squat . No depth at all from a guy considered as the strongest powerlifter . So yes suited lifting is a crap . I know at least 10 guys who beat Donnie at raw deep squatting and at least 20-30 guys who beat him at raw deadlift . So equipped powerlifting is a joke . I'm shure Zydrunas will kill everyone so called top powerlifters in a raw meet . And just like the king Z says if u are not strong enough u can use suits for lifting big weights. It's an ego pump sport for not that strong guys .
And the suits they use in stongman are nothing special . Just protection . Don't add power at all .
hixxy1985Icon...16-09-2013 @ 11:40 
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i like my deadlift suit. Doesnt give me anything other than the feel of more support. Like a belt.

I have had one in the past that took ages to get into, restricted my breathing, couldnt get to the bar but gave me alot off the floor.

In essence i can see the reason a belt was made but not sure a suit was made for the same reason. Id prefer no suits personally.
robocopIcon...16-09-2013 @ 11:47 
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Savolainen87 said:Just wathced Donnie Thompson fail 800 raw squat . No depth at all from a guy considered as the strongest powerlifter . So yes suited lifting is a crap . I know at least 10 guys who beat Donnie at raw deep squatting and at least 20-30 guys who beat him at raw deadlift . So equipped powerlifting is a joke . I'm shure Zydrunas will kill everyone so called top powerlifters in a raw meet . And just like the king Z says if u are not strong enough u can use suits for lifting big weights. It's an ego pump sport for not that strong guys .
And the suits they use in stongman are nothing special . Just protection . Don't add power at all .


I am actually regretting this before I finish typing it but....
Savolainen87 if you don't mind could you tell me the difference between the suits used in strongman and powerlifting please?
Savolainen87Icon...16-09-2013 @ 11:52 
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hixxy1985 said:i like my deadlift suit. Doesnt give me anything other than the feel of more support. Like a belt.

Can we say more ?!
martinbIcon...16-09-2013 @ 11:53 
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robocop said:
I am actually regretting this before I finish typing it but....
Savolainen87 if you don't mind could you tell me the difference between the suits used in strongman and powerlifting please?


What you've never seen an inzer strongman suit? Tag line "Adds zero kgs and is nothing special"
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Savolainen87 said:
hixxy1985 said:i like my deadlift suit. Doesnt give me anything other than the feel of more support. Like a belt.
Can we say more ?!


Am I right in thinking that "the king" big Z had a deadlift suit on in the final of WSM this year?
So just to confirm the suit he had on was just for protection and gave him no assistance?
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robocop said:
Am I right in thinking that "the king" big Z had a deadlift suit on in the final of WSM this year?
So just to confirm the suit he had on was just for protection and gave him no assistance?


Absolutely ! Terry Hollands wrote that Z would have been better without suit in the final. I believe he's right .
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Post Edited: 16.09.2013 @ 12:24 PM by chrisjenkins
samue1son said:This is a question, not a biased hate statement.

I'm not lying when I say that I didn't know suited lifting even existed, until I stumbled across Andy Bolton's suited videos last year.
I ALWAYS assumed that powerlifting was simply raw. I thought that belt and knee sleeves meant non-raw. I know.., na´ve.

But seriously; does lifting in multi-ply contribute toward your non multi-ply lifting? If so, then I see the point. If not, then I genuinely feel (probably risking flaming from many of you) that it's simply a cheating man's game.

I did submission wrestling; which is effectively jujitsu without a gi. Doing both though could contribute to a total jujitsu game.
Is it the same with suits? I'm assuming bench-shirts fall in the same category.

Without knowing how or why people use them, I feel dumbfounded because I assume you can either lift or you can't.

No trolling.


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Will.


Jiu jitsu with a gi is a lot different to no gi as you probably know, you can control an opponent with trapping the collar, or use the sleeve to control them. With no gi it does require more strength, or so I have found so the techniques you would employ for no gi would be entirely different because you would have to use the body as handles to control somebody which requires much more strength I find and makes it entirely different.

Wearing a gi does not give you an unfair advantage because you are competing against an opponent who is also wearing a Gi.

It's difficult to compare grappling to Powerlifting because they are entirely different. One requires short periods of heavy lifting with lots of rest to improve, the other requires high levels of muscular endurance and tends to favour the more you do it the better you become.

With the equipped and raw lifting you are still using the same lifts but they are definitely worlds apart. Even the line on the Deadlift is different, Bench shirts really kill the sport. You could have a short armed bench specialist who is nothing special in terms of strength, throw up a stupid bench and beat a lifter who has superior strength. It happens a lot in the back yards meets.

It's not to say that equipped lifters are not impressive, Andrey Belyaev, Olegsandr Kutcher and Andrey Malanichev are all impressive lifters.

I once walked through an airport and was standing in a line waiting to board a plane in New York, Kutcher was standing in front of me and his back developement was f**king crazy. He must have been about 82.5kg, his spinal erectors and middle back looked f**king stupid. Like David Rigert's. Kutcher had just won the WPO semi's in Lake George, New York. the week before he won the WPO semi's in Finland. He pulled 355kg, then later 360kg and he looked every bit as impressive as any raw lifter I have ever seen.
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hixxy1985 said:i like my deadlift suit. Doesnt give me anything other than the feel of more support. Like a belt.



Didnt relaise you'd pulled 400 belt only Wink Tongue
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martinb said:
What you've never seen an inzer strongman suit? Tag line "Adds zero kgs and is nothing special"


Mike Jenkins had on meal double ply briefs at WSM 2 years ago for the squat event but this was just for protection and did not ad power at all but if a powerlifter puts on same briefs he is not very strong and he is only putting them on for ego pump
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Savolainen87 said:
Absolutely ! Terry Hollands wrote that Z would have been better without suit in the final. I believe he's right .


So in your option sir why did he ware it?
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robocop said:
So in your option sir why did he ware it?


For confidence and protection I believe . Just like Hixxy said it .
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Can Donnie do this with his wide open high squat . NO ! So who has the power and who has the skill with eqipment . Top powerlifters has nothing on top strongmen . Realize that . The real strongest are the strongmen .
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Savolainen87 said:Just wathced Donnie Thompson fail 800 raw squat . No depth at all from a guy considered as the strongest powerlifter . So yes suited lifting is a crap . I know at least 10 guys who beat Donnie at raw deep squatting and at least 20-30 guys who beat him at raw deadlift . So equipped powerlifting is a joke . I'm shure Zydrunas will kill everyone so called top powerlifters in a raw meet . And just like the king Z says if u are not strong enough u can use suits for lifting big weights. It's an ego pump sport for not that strong guys .
And the suits they use in stongman are nothing special . Just protection . Don't add power at all .


LOL.

Believe it or not during the 90's equipped lifting was very popular and if you didn't use a suit you would be at a serious disadvantage as most contests didn't have an option for raw. You either suited up or came last. I know many equipped lifters who are extremely strong individuals, I know other lifters who lift massive numbers equipped that would have a serious shock to the system of how weak they are in reality raw.

I'm not that fussed on some of Donnie's lifts in a suit, but he's one strong mother f**ker raw FACT.
martinbIcon...16-09-2013 @ 12:14 
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robocop said:
So in your option sir why did he ware it?


For protection. It was bullet proof and he thought he saw a sniper

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