How young is too young ?
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| slimsim |  | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 12:15 |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | Some really good posts being made. Personally, I think it comes down to what you are looking to achieve. Do you want the child to be the best at something, or do you want what is best for the child? If the child is intrinsically motivated to do a particular sport then great, but we'll all heard of pushy parents who live out their dreams through their children. My understanding of what happens in Russia is that child partake in a much wider range of sports/activities and maintain this for years, even if there is one which they specialise in. This allows them to develop a whole range of athletic attributes, not just ones which assist in their "chosen" pursuit. I think THAT is the best way forward. In regards to how young is too young, I don't think there is a right or wrong answer. My eldest daughter is 5 and will regularly pick up her younger 3yr old sister and carry her around. She probably weighs 12-14kg I'd imagine. This is completely natural play and is unlikely to result in any ill-effects.......no different to lifting a barbell I say. I actually think the likelihood of children injuring themselves is minimal. I think a child simply would not have the muscular efficiency or mental attitude to lift something which is so beyond their capabilities that it would injure themselves. | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 12:45 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | 12 would be a good age. Gives them a good chance to lift while their testosterone levels will be at their highest. 5 or 6 years of good training and a pretty decent diet they could be pretty advanced by time their 18. I wish i had of started lifting at a younger age. | ||
| Rodger | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 12:46 |
 salad dodger *missing* Member 1805, 10367 posts SQ 215, BP 121, DL 240576.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Mark said:My boy loves his trampolining, he has proper lessons n will be doing comps soon. However, he also likes lifting things up. I don't need to encourage this, he wants to do it all the time. He pops into our unit after I pick him up some times and the other day he was flipping doubled up large wheels. I agree that maximal weights would be crazy for younger children, however you can't stop them doing things like this: Id have like him to have got more legs into that mate  Seriously though I wouldnt want to encourage my daughter to get into a sport unless she wanted to and I felt it the right age for her. I do think the vid of the 9 year old girl deadlifting 90kg is potentially dangerous but thats just my opinion. I think that 170+kg snatch at 87kg BW 17 Y/O is just AMAZING. Aye god knows what age he started lifting  | ||
| JC | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 12:46 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Mark said:My boy loves his trampolining, he has proper lessons n will be doing comps soon. However, he also likes lifting things up. I don't need to encourage this, he wants to do it all the time. He pops into our unit after I pick him up some times and the other day he was flipping doubled up large wheels. I agree that maximal weights would be crazy for younger children, however you can't stop them doing things like this: Obviously there is no problem with things like this imo...they are going to do things to try to immitate positive role models in their life (Callum tried to put a 16KG KB OH in JJB the other week...I s**t myself lol) After all, being very strong is given as a hugely positive image to kids, you only have to look at Avengers, Ben 10, Generator Rex etc to see this There's a huge difference between trying to pick up some s**t though, and being pushed into heavy WL day after day pre high school | ||
| shortandmighty | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 12:49 |
Aiming for a 250 squat by the end of 2012 Member 1989, 3168 posts SQ 240, BP 140, DL 270650.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | I have three girls and since I set up a gym in my garage the two youngest aged 7and 10 actually ask to use some of the gear. They both love deadlifting ( usually just an empty bar) and doing stuff like pull ups and pull downs. I would never force them to do anything. I think as long as they are supervised and taught the correct way to do things and respect the equipment it can only be a good thing. A properly performed deadlift can help improve posture. Noylt only that but lifting weights can improve a childs confidence with encouragement. | ||
| deleted2_20210523 | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 12:52 |
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| AdamT | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 12:58 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | kirkynick said:I've been thinking quite a bit about this lately, but with regard to activities in general and not weightlifting. As I see it, a kid shouldn't be pushed into doing something they don't want to do. However, they should be given the opportunity at a young age to try different things. If they enjoy doing some of them then great, if they don't enjoy them then it's also great. I wouldn't really want any son or daughter of mine to train with weights until the age of around 14. But I wouldn't be against them doing press ups, chin ups, sit ups etc before that age. The only physical activities that I would push a child of mine to do would be swimming and learning to ride a bike (plus here, ice skating and skiing). Nothing worse then seeing parents living through their kids. fully agree with this. I would encourage my kids but never pressure them. I know a fat f**k that lives near me that used to go mad when his footballer kid went to the chippy at 14. Hypocritical c..t! | ||
| aaron_lohan | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 13:00 |
 Hasn't always been a bench press specialist Member 44, 1907 posts SQ 252.5, BP 220, DL 210682.5 kgs @ 83kgs Eq | Post Edited: 15.11.2012 @ 13:00 PM by aaron_lohan I have a lad who has just turned 8 and I have tried to get him into lifting many times, and he isn't interested which is a shame because he is naturally strong. While I have been doing that I have introduced him to many other sports. At the moment he is doing athletics and swimming, and does competitions in athletics. He has also competed at thai boxing, he is a very competitive child and I'll never discourage that. As he gets older I will try and get him into weightlifting or powerlifting every now and again. The key is enjoyment, he loves athletics and cant keep away from it but forcing a child to do something they hate may bring short term success as some of the vids show but in order to be an olympian there needs to be a very long term commitment to the support and that is next to impossible with someone who doesnt actually enjoy the sport. Having said that is it necessary to start someone in the sport so young? There are plenty of sportsmen who took up the sport relatively late Ron Collins springs instantly to mind. | ||
| Steve | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 13:11 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | aaron_lohan said:Having said that is it necessary to start someone in the sport so young? There are plenty of sportsmen who took up the sport relatively late Ron Collins springs instantly to mind. True for powerlifting, but I don't think there have been many top weightlifters who have taken the sport at an older age. | ||
| DomRedshaw | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 13:19 |
 Uk limbo dancing champion Member 2666, 6551 posts SQ 202, BP 170, DL 255627.0 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq | i agree and disagree about pushy parents or kids shouldnt be forced to do what they dont want to. sometimes pushing kids is the only way. if we was all left to decide if we wanted to go to school or stay home n watch cartoons n play with toys most of us would choose the cartoons and toys. we then wouldnt be able to read or write or type etc and would miss out on all the fun debates on sugden. my point is kids dont always know or cant always see what is best for them and dont think about the future. theres no right way around it, either way is wrong. kids dont know whats best for them and parents dont know exactly whats best for their kids. how many adults want to get into oly lifitng but are too old to be world class? they probably wish their parents had pushed them into it younger. however if the parents had done, the kid would see it as pushy and missing his/her childhood fun. LOSE LOSE. the only way to be right is to know what your child will still want as an adult really and lets face it as kids we change our life ambitions every birthday and even as adults we can be pretty undecisive. | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 13:24 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | DomRedshaw said:i agree and disagree about pushy parents or kids shouldnt be forced to do what they dont want to. sometimes pushing kids is the only way. if we was all left to decide if we wanted to go to school or stay home n watch cartoons n play with toys most of us would choose the cartoons and toys. we then wouldnt be able to read or write or type etc and would miss out on all the fun debates on sugden. my point is kids dont always know or cant always see what is best for them and dont think about the future. theres no right way around it, either way is wrong. kids dont know whats best for them and parents dont know exactly whats best for their kids. how many adults want to get into oly lifitng but are too old to be world class? they probably wish their parents had pushed them into it younger. however if the parents had done, the kid would see it as pushy and missing his/her childhood fun. LOSE LOSE. the only way to be right is to know what your child will still want as an adult really and lets face it as kids we change our life ambitions every birthday and even as adults we can be pretty undecisive. Some good points. I think its good to push your kids to try something new and if they show any potential to maybe encourage them to stick what they do. however i dont think it is fair to live your life through your kids. Obviously give them the push in the right direction and always be there to advice them whenever they need it. Ultimately though its their lives and they should do whatever makes them happy | ||
| DomRedshaw | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 13:35 |
Uk limbo dancing champion Member 2666, 6551 posts SQ 202, BP 170, DL 255627.0 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq | AdamT said: Some good points. I think its good to push your kids to try something new and if they show any potential to maybe encourage them to stick what they do. however i dont think it is fair to live your life through your kids. Obviously give them the push in the right direction and always be there to advice them whenever they need it. Ultimately though its their lives and they should do whatever makes them happy i think we should guide and advise our kids to whats best for them, to the best of our knowledge. agree they shouldnt be forced to do something bcos we get enjoyment out of it regardless of their fun. i have to disagree with the last sentance on a whole, if it applies to activites etc then i agree but i feel too many parents let their kids do what they want to too often, especially when it comes to diets. some parents seem to give the kid what they want for an easier (tantrum free) life. like sweets, chocolate, coca cola and macdonalds etc none of these things are that bad in moderation but a lot of kids live of fizzy drinks n high sugar snacks which cant be good for them long term. not only that but i think SOME kids need a kick up the ass to exercise bcos with all the consoles, ipad n other gadgets a lot of kids wud rather sit in n play on these things than play a ball game. i have 3 nephews aged 3-12 n all they seem to care about is consoles, they seem to lack imagination and so cant play with figurines like i used too (except the 3 yr old, if hes alone he will) iv kinda forgot my point now so il stop rambling lol | ||
| Steve | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 13:38 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | On the subject of pushy (ambitious?) parents, have a look at the costs of sending a child to tennis school at Nick Bollettieri school - for non boarding starting at around $50,000 per year at elementary level and a pre school "future stars" programme for $1,245 per month!!! You've got to be more than a bit pushy to start spending those amounts | ||
| General_ill | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 13:38 |
 3rd place Europes strongest man 2016 U90kg Member 1239, 13275 posts SQ 280, BP 155, DL 310745.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | I just ordered my 3yrs old son a double ply squat suit. | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 15-11-2012 @ 13:41 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | DomRedshaw said: i think we should guide and advise our kids to whats best for them, to the best of our knowledge. agree they shouldnt be forced to do something bcos we get enjoyment out of it regardless of their fun. i have to disagree with the last sentance on a whole, if it applies to activites etc then i agree but i feel too many parents let their kids do what they want to too often, especially when it comes to diets. some parents seem to give the kid what they want for an easier (tantrum free) life. like sweets, chocolate, coca cola and macdonalds etc none of these things are that bad in moderation but a lot of kids live of fizzy drinks n high sugar snacks which cant be good for them long term. not only that but i think SOME kids need a kick up the ass to exercise bcos with all the consoles, ipad n other gadgets a lot of kids wud rather sit in n play on these things than play a ball game. i have 3 nephews aged 3-12 n all they seem to care about is consoles, they seem to lack imagination and so cant play with figurines like i used too (except the 3 yr old, if hes alone he will) iv kinda forgot my point now so il stop rambling lol Sorry with the wording on the last sentance. What i meant was they should participate in whatever activities it is that they enjoy | ||