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martinbIconHow strong are powerlifters really?31-12-2014 @ 12:55 
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I just saw a vid on Facebook of a British cyclist, 84kgs, squatting 320kgs for an easy double. Now the depth may not have been IPF, but it was pretty good, and obviously he can pass a drug test or two. Basically what I'm thinking is, especially at lighter bodyweights, would proper athletes destroy powerlifting wrs if they weren't busy making money and being popular.

The dude was called John Paul, but I'm on my phone and don't know how to link the vid
JohnGymIcon...31-12-2014 @ 13:03 
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martinb said:would proper athletes destroy powerlifting wrs if they weren't busy making money and being popular.


Mostly, yes.
Many great bodyweight Powerlifters have been high level athletes in previous sports.
FatpeteIcon...31-12-2014 @ 13:15 
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martinb said:I just saw a vid on Facebook of a British cyclist, 84kgs, squatting 320kgs for an easy double.


The British record for 83 kgs un equipped open age is 262.5.

So until John Paul does it in my presence, to my satisfaction, I don't believe it for a second. I don't doubt he has the legs but he won't have the back. Plus there is more to powerlifting than squatting.

As my old coach used to say "only believe half what you see and nothing that you hear"
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martinb said:I just saw a vid on Facebook of a British cyclist, 84kgs, squatting 320kgs for an easy double. Now the depth may not have been IPF, but it was pretty good, and obviously he can pass a drug test or two. Basically what I'm thinking is, especially at lighter bodyweights, would proper athletes destroy powerlifting wrs if they weren't busy making money and being popular.

The dude was called John Paul, but I'm on my phone and don't know how to link the vid


Considering cyclists particularly devote a large amount of attention to leg power and drive it shouldn't be a surprise that they have sturdy powerful legs resulting in squatting prowess.

A powerlifter should be a balanced lifter and not exclusively an advocate of the squat. I imagine most athletes would transition well in to powerlifting however they would initially still lack direct experience so no they would have to build up to records and would absolutely not destroy them.

Yes, they may pass drug tests yet this does not mean they are free of ergogenic aids. Their are ways around the tests and cycling is renowned for being a sport prolific in doping, arguably even more so than strength related sports.
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Fatpete said:
The British record for 83 kgs un equipped open age is 262.5.
So until John Paul does it in my presence, to my satisfaction, I don't believe it for a second. I don't doubt he has the legs but he won't have the back. Plus there is more to powerlifting than squatting.
As my old coach used to say "only believe half what you see and nothing that you hear"


I agree. Most powerlifters dedicate their lives to this s**t, and I don't think many "proper athletes" could lift half the weight powerlifters could.

I saw a video of Anthony joshua struggling to squat 100kg for a few reps. He's a big guy, very muscular and definitely an athlete.
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Fatpete said:
The British record for 83 kgs un equipped open age is 262.5.
So until John Paul does it in my presence, to my satisfaction, I don't believe it for a second. I don't doubt he has the legs but he won't have the back. Plus there is more to powerlifting than squatting.
As my old coach used to say "only believe half what you see and nothing that you hear"


Hopefully someone more technically adept than myself will find the vid and put it up.

It does seem stupidly heavy, that's what got me thinking

And I expect all he can do is squat (oh and cycle), makes it no less impressive imo.
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Post Edited: 31.12.2014 @ 13:23 PM by kirkynick
IrishMarcIcon...31-12-2014 @ 13:23 
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His spotter basically lifted it for him.



Not sure if there is a reason maybe he is doing heavy eccentrics, either way quite of bit of weight on the bar. It also looks like bumblebees over knee sleeves the way he is walking in towards and away from the bar and how thick they look.
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260x2 done propperly

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ay0kzjHCYAACCW9.jpg
SteveIcon...31-12-2014 @ 13:31 
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GBPF lifter Paul Cooper at 74kg is a great example of what a good athlete can achieve in powerlifting.
FatpeteIcon...31-12-2014 @ 13:33 
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Post Edited: 31.12.2014 @ 13:34 PM by Fatpete



Better still. From one of our very own.
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IrishMarc said:

260x2 done propperly

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ay0kzjHCYAACCW9.jpg


His legs are obviously massive and you can see this from the video and when he was doing the world championships but...

Photo is obviously photoshopped, look at his left leg
IainTIcon...31-12-2014 @ 14:19 
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I'd agree that done to a passing depth and without a spotter he's probably going to have to knock a couple of plates off.

Still, there are some very impressive athletes outside of strength sports, capable of hanging with or thrashing quite a lot of people who do specialise in strength sports. And then there are people who play sports, even rugby, to a high level who can barely squat bodyweight to anything approaching depth.
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I think the better question is how good are cyclists really?

From an unpaced standing start, I've done 10km in less than 8 minutes. Don't have a video to prove it though!

f**kin' cyclists!
FinchIcon...31-12-2014 @ 15:09 
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In his biography Chris Hoy claims to working out with 160kg squats.
Are you sure this guy is not talking lb's.

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