How pre-overtraining feels to you?

AMH_Power said:
Here is a table to help you gauge your own tolerance (fast/slow gainer) to find some optimal (within reason of course) rest/volume etc.
http://drsquat.com/content/knowledge-base/finding-ideal-traini...

AMH_Power said:
Great observation...women do have a greater tolerance for a few reasons:
1. Loading is usually lighter and so can recover faster
2. On average have much less fast twitch fibres
3. Don't push like males do due to different hormones.

Steve said:
There are many strong women who are far stronger than many, if not most men. Surely by your reasoning these women would have a lower tolerance than their weaker male counterparts?
Personally I think point three isn't true. I know many women who are prepared to push themselves and keep pushing far more than men.

AMH_Power said:
Yeah of course, but I mean in general. If that same female were to be given the same hormones of a male, she would be even more aggressive and have greater training output.
Also, the many strongwomen females 'stronger than most men', I would be reluctant to believe unless there is a severe skill difference with the test at hand. (although strength itself is a skill), or the female is on vitamin 'S'... or the males from down south
So, if we were to take one of these strong women and 100 men randomly off the street, put them under a leg press machine and their life depended on it, I would find it hard to believe the female would be in up at the top (providing she/they all are drug tested).
However, take something like the log press....s**t will change as there is a great skill element.
There are exceptionally strong women I don't doubt, but far and few between. Women in GENERAL are mentally and physically weaker.

Steve said:
I don't think many if any women could compete ate "strongman" type events because they simply don't have the size needed. With a standard bar on powerlifting or weightlifting events the best are now very competitive with all but the very top men of their size. I wonder if a similar sized woman to man lifting the same weights would have a similar recovery and the difference be purely down to the load rather than the persons sex?
As for women being mentally weaker? You certainly don't know the type of women I do. It is invariably woman I see holding things together whilst the male part of the couple falls to pieces.

Gordy said:
It's my understanding that woman have twice the number of pain receptors that men do and therefore the pain felt by a woman is twice as intense as the pain felt by a man (on average). An argument could be made that a woman capable of keeping up with a man in a demanding physical test is actually far stronger, mentally, than that man, since she’s potentially dealing with an activity that is twice as painful as the activity the man is involved in, despite it being the same activity.
I don’t know enough on the subject to say anything more definitive than that and factors other than pain tolerance would be involved, food for thought though.

kirkynick said:
Sam, i'm surprised that you over train considering you supplement so to speak.

Gordy said:
It's my understanding that woman have twice the number of pain receptors that men do and therefore the pain felt by a woman is twice as intense as the pain felt by a man (on average). An argument could be made that a woman capable of keeping up with a man in a demanding physical test is actually far stronger, mentally, than that man, since she’s potentially dealing with an activity that is twice as painful as the activity the man is involved in, despite it being the same activity.
I don’t know enough on the subject to say anything more definitive than that and factors other than pain tolerance would be involved, food for thought though.

kirkynick said:
Sam, i'm surprised that you over train considering you supplement so to speak.