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How many people can pull 300kg in the UK + another bullshit question.
| redbuthotter |  | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 14:25 |
Member 3705, 28 posts | Wiegieboard said:350 bjj black belts?! I remember when there were about 3! There's like an online register for it lol. Maybe there should be one for deadlifts, not sure what number would be appropriate. 340kg perhaps. | ||
| Steve | | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 15:03 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | matthewvc said: must be thousands nowadays who have competed at some level, be it novice comps or WSM, especially with the u90 divisions giving opportunities for average size and height people. That surprises me. Are there now more people competing in strongman than powerlifting? I guess it's difficult to accurately know because there are no official federations. | ||
| Wiegieboard |  | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 16:05 |
 as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11370 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.04.2016 @ 16:08 PM by Wiegieboard redbuthotter said: There's like an online register for it lol. Maybe there should be one for deadlifts, not sure what number would be appropriate. 340kg perhaps. That's an absolutely incredible explosion of talent and dedication. Does anyone think about 650 or 700 lbs would be a fair enough number? Thing is, even more people lift than train jits so if anything the number should probably be even higher! To think my dream is to pull 200... | ||
| redbuthotter | | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 16:30 |
Member 3705, 28 posts | Wiegieboard said: That's an absolutely incredible explosion of talent and dedication. Does anyone think about 650 or 700 lbs would be a fair enough number? Thing is, even more people lift than train jits so if anything the number should probably be even higher! To think my dream is to pull 200... Hmmm hard to define then, it was a retarded question to start off with to be fair. But it boils down to, if you train really hard for 10-15 years in jits you probs will get a black belt even with normal talent. If you train hard for that time, what's a fair expectation value for "average" genetics. Lmao I'm sure you will, unless you got f**ked over bad in the genetic lottery or something else is up. | ||
| IainKendrick | | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 16:37 |
 some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | redbuthotter said: If you train hard for that time, what's a fair expectation value for "average" genetics.. Depends how heavy you are and if you take drugs? In drug tested Powerlifting Feds (UK) 300kg deads are pretty rare, and I'd suggest the ones that have done it are prob a bit above average talent for the movement. Even in the heavier classes +100/105 there doesn't appear a big increase in +300kg pulls. However not exactly done any stats on the data! | ||
| matthewvc | | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 16:50 |
 ‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3496 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq | Steve said: That surprises me. Are there now more people competing in strongman than powerlifting? I guess it's difficult to accurately know because there are no official federations. I'm just going off here and a few other places and mentally adding up the regional comps, novices, various gym events(Olympic dragons etc). also it's not active competitors, more just how many people have done at least one comp in last year or so. | ||
| matthewvc | | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 16:59 |
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3496 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.04.2016 @ 17:00 PM by matthewvc redbuthotter said: Hmmm hard to define then, it was a retarded question to start off with to be fair. But it boils down to, if you train really hard for 10-15 years in jits you probs will get a black belt even with normal talent. If you train hard for that time, what's a fair expectation value for "average" genetics. Lmao I'm sure you will, unless you got f**ked over bad in the genetic lottery or something else is up. Difficult question to answer. Good genetics for a pull would be good leverages + fast twitch dominant + other mental aspects that probably have a genetic component like aggression and drive. A big factor is bw - a lot of trainers want to stay very lean and leanness comes at a cost to muscle, certainly without drugs. There's no way I'd be near 300 if I went all aesthetic and tried to be 75-80kg at single digit bf levels... So they never get to see where they'd end up if they piled on some blubber | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 17:08 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5209 posts | Can of worms going to be open, but f**k it. How many real drug free deadlifts of 300 are there? reckon the number is still high, but nowhere near thousands in the UK. I'd say a natural 300kg is comparative to a juiced 350. | ||
| JackRevans | | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 17:33 |
 'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | AdamT said: I'd say a natural 300kg is comparative to a juiced 350. i find this extremely hard to believe. 350 is elite natty or not, 300 is good but not elite for a natural lifter. Probably | ||
| KevC86 | | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 17:43 |
 Member 5141, 4733 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 350830.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq | AdamT said: I'd say a natural 300kg is comparative to a juiced 350. There would need to be a fair amount of gear and time involved to go from a 300 deadlift up to 350. As an example, an elite lifter on this very site made the transition to untested competition in the last year or so and has added about 30kg to his max pull i believe. Is a 370 drug free better than a juice plus 400? | ||
| matthewvc | | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 17:45 |
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3496 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq | AdamT said:Can of worms going to be open, but f**k it. How many real drug free deadlifts of 300 are there? reckon the number is still high, but nowhere near thousands in the UK. I'd say a natural 300kg is comparative to a juiced 350. Problem with this comparison is what levels of ped use? A couple of 12-week test enanthata-only cycles v grams/week of everything never coming off. the immediate neural improvements and estro-bloat from the aforementioned 'beginner' program may elicit 10% gain whereas long term heavy use who knows? | ||
| LessThanLuke | | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 18:11 |
 his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | AdamT said:Can of worms going to be open, but f**k it. How many real drug free deadlifts of 300 are there? reckon the number is still high, but nowhere near thousands in the UK. I'd say a natural 300kg is comparative to a juiced 350. I've done both so sounds about right. | ||
| scruffmcbuff | | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 18:15 |
Lovely ass Congrats. Member 5958, 2315 posts SQ 280, BP 170, DL 300750.0 kgs @ 138kgs UnEq | KevC86 said: Is a 370 drug free better than a juice plus 400? Not really. A natty 370 is f**king impressive. Does that mean the fellas pulling 450+ on slin etc are less impressive? i dont think so. Both deserve merit | ||
| FAT_SAM | | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 18:32 |
 more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | If you look at drug tested vs untested records, you see that there is roughly 10% difference in numbers overall. | ||
| mark_f1 | | ... | 09-04-2016 @ 18:33 |
not actually strong Member 5779, 811 posts SQ 220, BP 150, DL 285655.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | The question was how many 300 pullers are there, not natural raw powerlifters. I personally know at least 10 guys from doncaster and the surrounding areas that can do 300, and another couple on the verge of cracking it. One of them is a lad that could do it from the age of 20, his background was American football. I don't go to any powerlifting clubs so there is probably some more out there. Thats a very small catchment for the u.k in what isnt as dense a populated area as some of the cities. 300 is a great lift, but it seems you have to be knocking on the door of 400 now to be an elite. | ||
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